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4.14.9 Kernel crashes

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Re: 4.14.9 Kernel crashes

#21 Postby entropyfoe » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:57 pm

Stevo, Good tip, I think that makes sense, the Ryzen stuff is not a problem for Meltdown, but spectre is still potential, or at least one variant.
I am not worried about these, for now these exploits are not yet reported the wild, and exploitation is theoretical and difficult.

4.10 antix kernel is totally stable, 45 days, I will stick with that. I still await 4.15, where all the patches are baked in, and supposedly lots of Ryzen code, like for temp monitoring.
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Re: 4.14.9 Kernel crashes

#22 Postby Mauser » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:57 pm

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4.14.12 64bit is not listed in the package installer -

JR[/quote]
It's the last one down on the list. MX 4.14kernel. Which really is 4.14.0-12.1-liquorix-amd64 x86_64

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Re: 4.14.9 Kernel crashes

#23 Postby rokytnji.1 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:07 pm

If we are talking antix here

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biker:/home/harry# cli-aptiX
Checking source files ...
Checking for package upgrades ...
Creating database ...
database generation took 0.64 seconds

===============================================================================
antiX Command Line Package Installer
===============================================================================
(no pending upgrades)
                                                                                                                                                                     
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  > Search for packages to mark or install                                                                                                                           
  > View a list of 83 suggested Command Line packages                                                                                                                 
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root@biker:/home/harry# uname -a
Linux biker 4.14.12-antix.1-amd64-smp #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Jan 7 19:48:28 EET 2018 x86_64 GNU/Linux
 


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Re: 4.14.9 Kernel crashes

#24 Postby Stevo » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:12 pm

It's the last one down on the list. MX 4.14kernel. Which really is 4.14.0-12.1-liquorix-amd64 x86_64


Sorry, that's incorrect. They are two different kernels altogether.

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Re: 4.14.9 Kernel crashes

#25 Postby namida12 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:01 am

I have been running 14.4.12 all day long. It has been stable thus far. I have not run it non-stop for days, but it looks good and has not crashed yet.
14.4.9 would shut down the system, and 4.13.4 that would freeze the system...

Thank you everyone, guess I like many will wait for newer hardware to be released and do antiX 17 updates as they appear.

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$ inxi -F
System:    Host: antix250 Kernel: 4.14.12-gnu-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM 1.4.2
           Distro: antiX-17_x64-full Heather Heyer 24 October 2017
Machine:   Device: laptop Mobo: MSI model: B350M GAMING PRO (MS-7A39) v: 1.0 serial: N/A
           UEFI [Legacy]: American Megatrends v: 2.30 date: 03/24/2017
CPU:       Quad core AMD Ryzen 5 1500X (-MT-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB
           clock speeds: max: 3500 MHz 1: 1550 MHz 2: 1550 MHz 3: 1550 MHz 4: 3000 MHz 5: 1550 MHz 6: 1550 MHz
           7: 3500 MHz 8: 1550 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV670 [Radeon HD 3690/3850]
           Display Server: X.Org 1.19.2 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
           OpenGL: renderer: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.9, 128 bits) version: 3.3 Mesa 13.0.6
Audio:     Card-1 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Device 1457 driver: snd_hda_intel
           Card-2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV670/680 HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 3690/3800 Series]
           driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.14.12-gnu-antix.1-amd64-smp
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: 18:d6:c7:06:f9:4a
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 250.1GB (33.2% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: Samsung_SSD_850 size: 250.1GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 14G used: 6.2G (48%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
           ID-2: /home size: 206G used: 68G (35%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda3
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 4.29GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: No active sensors found. Have you configured your sensors yet? mobo: N/A gpu: 85.0
Info:      Processes: 191 Uptime: 5:37 Memory: 641.2/16060.0MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.53



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Re: 4.14.9 Kernel crashes

#26 Postby anticapitalista » Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:33 am

Hey, you're using the gnu libre version of the 4.14.12 antiX kernel. Is that intentional?
The 'normal' kernel is 4.14.12-antix.1-amd64-smp
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Re: 4.14.9 Kernel crashes

#27 Postby entropyfoe » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:00 pm

Yesterday I installed a few kernels in antix17.

All booted fine except the 4.14 ( I understand the 4.14 is meltdown/spectre patched) which went to a black terminal, I logged in and tried startx, but there was no xserver to log into, was the kind of errors messages I got.

So, how do I get the nvidia driver on the 4.14, on the 4.10, 4.9.75 the nvidia comes in automagically.

Then how to do that in MX? I want to try athe antix kernel versions on the Ryzen to see if they are for some reason more stable.
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Re: 4.14.9 Kernel crashes

#28 Postby caprea » Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:15 pm

entropyfoe wrote:
All booted fine except the 4.14

I dont kow how this is related. On my intel-box the newest antix-4.14.12-kernel runs fine together with the newest nvidia 384.111-driver.
Which nvidia-driver do you use ?

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Re: 4.14.9 Kernel crashes

#29 Postby Stevo » Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:36 pm

The 4.14-12 MX kernel has a bug inherited from Debian, where its headers don't pull in libelf-dev. We worked around that temporarily by having mx-system pull it in, but that obviously won't be installed in antiX. Some dkms drivers don't rebuild if libelf-dev isn't installed, though I'm not sure if Nvidia is one of them.

I am uploading a rebuild of that kernel which I hope corrects that missing dependency, as well as includes the patch to allow the new amd64-microcode to apply to Ryzen processors.

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Re: 4.14.9 Kernel crashes

#30 Postby caprea » Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:14 pm

This is strange, bc on my sytem libelf-dev isn't installed,nevertheless the nvidia-driver built very well against the kernel.

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helga@antix1:~
$ sudo dkms status
nvidia, 384.111, 4.13.4-antix.1-amd64-smp, x86_64: installed
nvidia, 384.111, 4.14.12-antix.1-amd64-smp, x86_64: installed
rtl8192cu-tjp, 1.6: added


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helga@antix1:~
$ apt-cache policy libelf-dev
libelf-dev:
  Installiert:           (keine)
  Installationskandidat: 0.170-0.2
  Versionstabelle:
     0.170-0.2 500
        500 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian testing/main amd64 Packages


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