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New install 17.3.1 several problems Ryzen 5 - 1500x

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Post by namida12 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:58 am

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$ inxi -F
System:    Host: antix2 Kernel: 4.9.146-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM 1.4.2 
           Distro: antiX-17.3.1_x64-full Helen Keller 27 December 2018 
Machine:   Type: Laptop Mobo: MSI model: B350M GAMING PRO (MS-7A39) v: 1.0 serial: <root required> UEFI: American Megatrends 
           v: 2.30 date: 03/24/2017 
CPU:       Topology: Quad Core model: AMD Ryzen 5 1500X bits: 64 type: MT MCP L2 cache: 2048 KiB 
           Speed: 1550 MHz min/max: 1550/3500 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1550 2: 1550 3: 1550 4: 1550 5: 3000 6: 1550 7: 1550 
           8: 1550 
Graphics:  Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV670 [Radeon HD 3690/3850] driver: radeon v: kernel 
           Display: server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: ati,radeon unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV670 (DRM 2.49.0 / 4.9.146-antix.1-amd64-smp LLVM 3.9.1) v: 3.3 Mesa 13.0.6 
Audio:     Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV670/680 HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 3690/3800 Series] driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.9.146-antix.1-amd64-smp 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet driver: r8169 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: 18:d6:c7:06:f9:4a 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 117.59 GiB (25.2%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Mushkin model: MKNSSDSR500GB size: 465.76 GiB 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 14.70 GiB used: 4.83 GiB (32.9%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 
           ID-2: /home size: 426.19 GiB used: 112.76 GiB (26.5%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda4 
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 16.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda3 
Sensors:   Message: No sensors data was found. Is sensors configured? 
Info:      Processes: 206 Uptime: 25m Memory: 15.69 GiB used: 615.6 MiB (3.8%) Shell: bash inxi: 3.0.29 

I was playing with beta VPN Beta Windscribe and lost my Antix install earlier today... Hence new install...

1. No sound volume icon on panel
2. Crashes within 2/4 hours with newer kernels (I tried 4.19.18)
3. Having difficulty remembering how I managed to change sound card from HDMI to Generic - and make it stay changed.

Thought I had forum post and notes for this but can not locate to fix these problems.

I have been running 4.9.146-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits for a long time because of crashing newer kernels

JR

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Re: New install 17.3.1 several problems Ryzen 5 - 1500x

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Post by namida12 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:17 am

Slowly getting Antix 17.3.1 set up again...

1 Solved, after several reboots there is an volume Icon on Panel.
3. Managed to get sound card to changed, and it has stayed on new setting. Maybe the Sound Volume icon only appears in the panel when sound card is working?

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Re: New install 17.3.1 several problems Ryzen 5 - 1500x

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2. Crashes within 2/4 hours with newer kernels (I tried 4.19.18) 
Maybe it's time to seriously consider updating your bios.
If you do so, you will most likely be able to use any kernel, even the newest 4.20 without crashes.

Please follow this thread some sides, looking for Paul and entropyfoe, a bios-update and afterwards the right settings in bios, solves the crashing problem.
viewtopic.php?p=470631#p470631

If you still don't like that thought about a bios-update, you have to make these changes, but it will only work up to the antix4.19.4-kernel.
viewtopic.php?p=438719#p438719

Updating bios seems to be easy on newest msi-boards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRyFMf0D9Lc

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Re: New install 17.3.1 several problems Ryzen 5 - 1500x

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Post by dreamer » Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:22 pm

For a new system like Ryzen you are probably better off with MX 18. The MX team did update many packages (hardware support) that you don't find in antiX 17.

I prefer the antiX/MX 17 packages, but if I had a Ryzen system I would go with MX 18.

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Re: New install 17.3.1 several problems Ryzen 5 - 1500x

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Post by Stevo » Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:33 pm

You can still most of what MX 18 is using with stretch-backports or pretty much all of it with my new-hardware-support OBS repo: https://build.opensuse.org/project/show ... re-support

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Re: New install 17.3.1 several problems Ryzen 5 - 1500x

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Post by namida12 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:14 am

caprea wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:16 pm

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2. Crashes within 2/4 hours with newer kernels (I tried 4.19.18) 
Maybe it's time to seriously consider updating your bios.
If you do so, you will most likely be able to use any kernel, even the newest 4.20 without crashes.

Please follow this thread some sides, looking for Paul and entropyfoe, a bios-update and afterwards the right settings in bios, solves the crashing problem.
viewtopic.php?p=470631#p470631

If you still don't like that thought about a bios-update, you have to make these changes, but it will only work up to the antix4.19.4-kernel.
viewtopic.php?p=438719#p438719

Updating bios seems to be easy on newest msi-boards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRyFMf0D9Lc
Had not thought about a bio or uefi update, and my MSI hardware is very old in Ryzen age, and apparently would not run a Ryzen second gen processor...

Thanks

JR

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Re: New install 17.3.1 several problems Ryzen 5 - 1500x

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Post by entropyfoe » Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:49 am

namida12 , caprea is right. Give it a try.

I have not had a single crash since the BIOS update. I took out the boot parameter. Many cases of over 10-15 days up time.
See my post from Dec. 10th....viewtopic.php?p=471378#p471378
Over two days uptime, mostly idling (which causes the crash) still solid.
I will leave the rcu_nocbs for now, but when the RC comes, I will omit the grub line.

So the key is a newer BIOS, for me 4024, that has a new option in the advanced tab, Power Supply Idle Control, and this is set from the Auto to "Typical Current Idle".
I used to need that rcu ncbs=0-11 boot parameter.
But the real fix is the BIOS update, and then you have to change one setting the "Typical Current Idle".
I think what was happening, at idle, the power consumption was being driven too low to keep the CPU running. This fixes that issue.
Asus Prime 370X-Pro
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Re: New install 17.3.1 several problems Ryzen 5 - 1500x

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Post by namida12 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:28 am

entropyfoe wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:49 am
namida12 , caprea is right. Give it a try.

But the real fix is the BIOS update, and then you have to change one setting the "Typical Current Idle".
I think what was happening, at idle, the power consumption was being driven too low to keep the CPU running. This fixes that issue.
OK, have updated Bios (B350M GAMING PRO (MS-7A39) V2.L BIOS Release - 2019/1/28)

Now can not boot, am typing from Live Media. Went to boot repair, but there is no UEFI seems like only Legacy repair.
Is there something else I can do, or does this again require a new install?

Oops panic shut down my reading ability: sorry for confusion. All seemed well see graphic...

Do not know how to change: the setting the "Typical Current Idle". if MSI Motherboard has that setting what do I change it to?

I have crashed again with 4.19.18 - using 4.20.0 now to see if that changes the downtime...

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$ inxi -F
System:    Host: antix2 Kernel: 4.19.18-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM 1.4.2 
           Distro: antiX-17.3.1_x64-full Helen Keller 27 December 2018 
Machine:   Type: Desktop System: Micro-Star product: MS-7A39 v: 1.0 serial: <root required> 
           Mobo: MSI model: B350M GAMING PRO (MS-7A39) v: 1.0 serial: <root required> UEFI: American Megatrends v: 2.L0 
           date: 01/22/2019 
CPU:       Topology: Quad Core model: AMD Ryzen 5 1500X bits: 64 type: MT MCP L2 cache: 2048 KiB 
           Speed: 1438 MHz min/max: 1550/3500 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1377 2: 1377 3: 1377 4: 1377 5: 1377 6: 1377 7: 1459 
           8: 1512 
Graphics:  Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV670 [Radeon HD 3690/3850] driver: radeon v: kernel 
           Display: server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: ati,radeon unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV670 (DRM 2.50.0 / 4.19.18-antix.1-amd64-smp LLVM 3.9.1) v: 3.3 Mesa 13.0.6 
Audio:     Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV670/680 HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 3690/3800 Series] driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] driver: snd_hda_intel  
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.18-antix.1-amd64-smp 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet driver: r8169 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: 30:9c:23:00:fd:16 
           Device-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet driver: r8169 
           IF: eth1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: 18:d6:c7:06:f9:4a 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 118.10 GiB (25.4%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Mushkin model: MKNSSDSR500GB size: 465.76 GiB 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 14.70 GiB used: 4.86 GiB (33.1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 
           ID-2: /home size: 426.19 GiB used: 113.24 GiB (26.6%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda4 
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 16.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda3 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 34.8 C mobo: N/A gpu: radeon temp: 84 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Info:      Processes: 209 Uptime: 32m Memory: 15.68 GiB used: 1013.6 MiB (6.3%) Shell: bash inxi: 3.0.29 
green257@antix2:~


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Re: New install 17.3.1 several problems Ryzen 5 - 1500x

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Post by caprea » Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:13 am

Is your harddrive selected as bootdevice in the new uefi ?
Crub-repair isn't nessecary , normally.

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Re: New install 17.3.1 several problems Ryzen 5 - 1500x

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Post by namida12 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:36 am

caprea wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:13 am
Is your harddrive selected as bootdevice in the new uefi ?
Crub-repair isn't nessecary , normally.
Yes, can boot properly now...

I tried to update to kernel 4.20.0 and it seems to install with many more messages, but as you can see I am still running Kernel: 4.19.18-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits:

Seems 4.20.0 will not install...
Am still searching web to find how to change "Typical Current Idle" on my motherboard.

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