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Direct3d Disabled in Virtualbox winXP VM

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Direct3d Disabled in Virtualbox winXP VM

#1 Post by mmikeinsantarosa » Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:33 pm

I know that perhaps this may not be the correct place to post this but you have all been so helpful...
I've followed numerous tutorial for installing Virtualbox and enabling 3d acceleration but just can't get the VM to realize this.
I have checedk dxdiag from the guest and it is not available.
I'm using VB 4.3.12, XP Pro SP3 and have installed the gues additions from (guest) safe mode.

Has anybody been successful getting 3D acceleration enabled?

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Re: Direct3d Disabled in Virtualbox winXP VM

#2 Post by dolphin_oracle » Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:55 pm

have you checked that you've enabled 3d acceleration on the VM configuration
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Re: Direct3d Disabled in Virtualbox winXP VM

#3 Post by mmikeinsantarosa » Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:45 pm

absolutely
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Re: Direct3d Disabled in Virtualbox winXP VM

#4 Post by kmathern » Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:26 pm

What's the host system's video setup like? (videocard & driver)

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Re: Direct3d Disabled in Virtualbox winXP VM

#5 Post by joany » Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:31 pm

Read the following instructions carefully, especially Section 4.4: https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04. ... tadd-video
The Guest Additions must be installed.
Note

For the basic Direct3D acceleration to work in a Windows Guest, VirtualBox needs to replace Windows system files in the virtual machine. As a result, the Guest Additions installation program offers Direct3D acceleration as an option that must be explicitly enabled. Also, you must install the Guest Additions in "Safe Mode". This does not apply to the experimental WDDM Direct3D video driver available for Vista and Windows 7 guests, see Chapter 14, Known limitations for details.
FWIW, I haven't gotten 3D acceleration working 100% on any guest OS. Some features may work and others won't.
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Re: Direct3d Disabled in Virtualbox winXP VM

#6 Post by mmikeinsantarosa » Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:06 pm

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the result:
System: Host: mx1 Kernel: 3.12-0.bpo.1-686-pae i686 (32 bit gcc: 4.6.3)
Desktop: Xfce 4.10.2 (Gtk 2.24.10) dm: lightdm
Distro: MX-14 Symbiosis 24 March 2014
Machine: System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP Compaq nc8430 (RF591UC#ABA) v: F.10
Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 30A3 v: KBC Version 40.17
Bios: Hewlett-Packard v: 68YVD Ver. F.10 date: 04/17/2007
Chassis: type: 10
CPU: Dual core Intel T2500 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB
flags: (nx pae sse sse2 sse3 vmx) bmips: 7980
Clock Speeds: 1: 1667 MHz 2: 1000 MHz
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] ATI M56P [Radeon Mobility X1600]
bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:71c5
Display Server: X.Org 1.12.4 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
Resolution: 1152x768@59.8hz
GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV530
GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.5 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio: Card Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller
driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:27d8
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k3.12-0.bpo.1-686-pae
Network: Card-1: Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5753M Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express
driver: tg3 v: 3.133 bus-ID: 08:00.0 chip-ID: 14e4:16fd
IF: eth0 state: down mac: 00:17:08:42:0a:a7
Card-2: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection
driver: iwl3945 v: in-tree:s bus-ID: 10:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:4222
IF: wlan0 state: up mac: 00:18:de:bc:f1:20
Drives: HDD Total Size: 320.1GB (6.2% used)
ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD3200BEVT size: 320.1GB serial: WD-WX41A40F8481
Partition: ID-1: / size: 97G used: 14G (16%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
ID-2: swap-1 size: 5.24GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda4
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 60.0C mobo: 50.0C
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info: Processes: 137 Uptime: 42 min Memory: 185.0/2024.0MB
Init: SysVinit v: 2.88 runlevel: 5 default: 5
Gcc sys: 4.7.2 alt: 4.6
Client: Shell (bash 4.2.371 running in xfce4-terminal) inxi: 2.1.28
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Re: Direct3d Disabled in Virtualbox winXP VM +1

#7 Post by mmikeinsantarosa » Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:36 pm

I just uninstalled guest additions and reinstalled same and the Direct3D is now enabled.

Note:
I rebooted in Safe mode, after running mscondfig and checking BOOT.INI /SAFEBOOT
uninstalled guest additions
rebooted in safe mode
during this boot, windows finds several items that need divers and I cancelled where I could for any update.
Clicked Device insert guest additions CD image and executed the install
Instead of accepting the auto reboot, I cancelled and ran msconfig again and unchecked /SAFEBOOT and enabled the General tab's Normal Startup radio button,, closed the dialog and rebooted.
After the next reboot, I ran dxdialog again and found direct3d enabled.

FYI - dxdiag reported that d3d8.dll & d3d8.dll are old versions and could cause problems.
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Re: Direct3d Disabled in Virtualbox winXP VM

#8 Post by mmikeinsantarosa » Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:58 pm

Although the 3d acceleration is enabled, dxdiag fails multiple tests for 3D accelleration.
Is Directx 9c the best for XP?


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Re: Direct3d Disabled in Virtualbox winXP VM

#9 Post by mmikeinsantarosa » Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:04 pm

Has anybody tried VMPlayer (free) on MX14?

and been successful?

I don't see it in synaptic. Is there a repo I need to hook up?

Or will I need to install it manually?


I found this inspiring advice on the VB site:
There are 2 possibilities:

1) Games needs DirectX 7 or older. VBOX supports 8 and 9.
2) It does not work because it does not work

There is nothing you can do instead of accepting this.

For old games a good solution is WINE on Linux Hosts.
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Re: Direct3d Disabled in Virtualbox winXP VM

#10 Post by joany » Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:30 am

mmikeinsantarosa wrote:Has anybody tried VMPlayer (free) on MX14?

and been successful?

I don't see it in synaptic. Is there a repo I need to hook up?

Or will I need to install it manually?


I found this inspiring advice on the VB site:
There are 2 possibilities:

1) Games needs DirectX 7 or older. VBOX supports 8 and 9.
2) It does not work because it does not work

There is nothing you can do instead of accepting this.

For old games a good solution is WINE on Linux Hosts.
Mike
I used VMware Player a long time ago with a Windows host, but I switched to VirtualBox because I found it's much easier to use. I consider VB to be the "gold standard" of virtualization software.

I found this side-by-side comparison of VB and VMware: http://xmodulo.com/2013/04/vmware-playe ... rison.html

The main advantage of VMware is that it supports networking between guest and host, if that's your bag. The main disadvantage is that VMware doesn't support taking snapshots (or at least not easily). I didn't see 3D acceleration mentioned at all as either a pro or con for either application.

VMware player can be downloaded as a 123MB *.bundle file, which is pretty big. It's a shell script, so it looks like it's fairly easy to install VMware on MX-14. The one thing I remember from the "old days" is that it was a real "bear" to completely remove VMware from Windows. I don't know if you can use Synaptic to remove it from Linux once it's installed, but you might have to manually remove files in order to "uninstall" it.
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