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M8 No wifi (MT7601U) or wired (RTL811G) networking! [Solved]

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Re: No wifi or wired networking!

#21 Postby kmathern » Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:27 pm

@TenderFoot,

On my new pc I have pretty much the same ethernet device as you do (though it's a different Subsystem ID):

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$ lspci -knn | grep Ethernet -A3
01:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller [10ec:8168] (rev 11)
   Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:0800]
   Kernel driver in use: r8169


I just spent some time in a M8 live session, and I also don't get a wired connection. The ifconfig output was similar to what you posted here: viewtopic.php?p=347800#p347800

lsmod in the M8 live session gives this

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$ lsmod|grep 8169
r8169                  31748  0
mii                     8832  1 r8169


In MX14 where it works I get this:

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$ lsmod|grep 8169
r8169                  68262  0
mii                    12675  1 r8169

Does someone know what the numbers in the 2nd column are about?

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Re: No wifi or wired networking!

#22 Postby Stevo » Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:50 pm

kmathern wrote:
Stevo wrote:Possibly, but if firmware is missing, usually no "eth0" interface is created at all.
So if the "eth0" interface has been created and is "UP", it's probably not a problem with the ethernet driver?


Yes, maybe it's mnetwork blocking connections or something. Possibly removing the package will help.

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Re: No wifi or wired networking!

#23 Postby kmathern » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:41 pm

Stevo wrote:
kmathern wrote:
Stevo wrote:Possibly, but if firmware is missing, usually no "eth0" interface is created at all.
So if the "eth0" interface has been created and is "UP", it's probably not a problem with the ethernet driver?


Yes, maybe it's mnetwork blocking connections or something. Possibly removing the package will help.
I tried removing both mepis-mnetwork and network-manager-kde, it didn't help.

I'm back to thinking there might be a problem with the driver.

If I boot the M8 Live session to init level 3 I see this:

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 * Setting up networking ...
 * Configuring network interfaces ...
nf_conntrack version 0.5.0 (16384 buckets, 65536 max)
Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0.

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Re: No wifi or wired networking!

#24 Postby dolphin_oracle » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:08 pm

I saw a couple of old posts that implied that part/driver would not work with the interface named eth0. I can't believe that changing the name to eth1 would work but stranger things have happened. I also don't know how to change the interface name, but maybe this will jog someone's memory.
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Re: No wifi or wired networking!

#25 Postby TenderFoot » Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:44 am

There may be a clue there. I remarked in an earlier thread that the drivers for RT2870 change wlan0 to ra0 - but that's across distros yet there are no such modifications to eth0 to accomodate the wired connection?

EDIT Found this link http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-linu ... sing-udev/ about renaming conections which proably means more to you gurus!

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Re: No wifi or wired networking!

#26 Postby kmathern » Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:24 pm

I've been digging into this a little more, I'm wondering if the problem might have something to do with the 2.6.27 kernel that Mepis 8.0 used?

There's a lengthy Redhat bugreport thread here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=460747 where the 2.6.27 kernel (and some other versions) had problems with the r8169 driver similar to what we're seeing here.

There's also an old topic on our own forum here: viewtopic.php?f=19&t=23184&hilit=r8169. If you read all the way thru those posts it looks like it was never resolved for the 2.6.27 kernel. In the final post in the topic (viewtopic.php?p=203148#p203148) the o.p. said he had installed M8.5 and had a working internet connection with it.

M8.5 used a 2.6.32 series kernel that can also be installed in M8. Maybe download the 2.6.32 kernel from whatever install you have a working internet connection with, and then boot back into M8 and install it with dpkg.

Here's the links of the 2.6.32 kernels that Warren built for M8.5:
64bit: ftp://ftp.mepis.com/mepis/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-image-2.6.32-1-mepis64-smp_2.6.32-12mepis1_amd64.deb
32bit: ftp://ftp.mepis.com/mepis/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-image-2.6.32-1-mepis-pae_2.6.32-12mepis1_i386.deb

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Re: No wifi or wired networking!

#27 Postby TenderFoot » Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:27 pm

I've downloaded the 2.26.32 (64bit) deb file. Hand-holding needed here for the dpkg step!?

And before proceeding, didn't you mention somewhere about a kernel update being needed to get the RT2870 working in M8 (if at all)? Can we kill two birds with one stone?

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Re: No wifi or wired networking!

#28 Postby kmathern » Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:44 pm

TenderFoot wrote:I've downloaded the 2.26.32 (64bit) deb file. Hand-holding needed here for the dpkg step!? ....
You might even be able to install it with KPackage just by clicking on it. KPackage doesn't automatically install missing dependencies like gdebi does, but I don't think there'll be any missing dependencies.


If that doesn't work, open Konsole and change to the directory where the .deb file is located, then su to root.
Then run the following: {just typing the first couple characters in the .deb filename should be enough, then press tab to autocomplete it}

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dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.32-1-mepis64-smp_2.6.32-12mepis1_amd64.deb



Then update grub

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su -c update-grub





TenderFoot wrote:...And before proceeding, didn't you mention somewhere about a kernel update being needed to get the RT2870 working in M8 (if at all)? Can we kill two birds with one stone?
Let's do one thing at a time. (i.e. get the connection issue fixed first)

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Re: No wifi or wired networking!

#29 Postby TenderFoot » Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:19 pm

KPackage doesn't automatically install missing dependencies like gdebi does


That could've been a paradox given the lack of any internet connection (unless using a temporary pci card)!

However, I'm happy to report SUCCESS (using KPackage)!

[Sometime down the line the grub menu may be tweaked to remove some of the extra entries.]

I guess the next step will be to update the repo source list then update the system (and sort out the graphics - another thread).

Let's do one thing at a time. (i.e. get the connection issue fixed first)


You're right but just wondered whether another kernel upgrade might be required to sort the RT2870 but perhaps a different strategy is required preparatory to the steps previously discussed for M11?

EDIT The connection is not entirely stable! This may be a consequence of earlier blundering about since the tray is showing two icons - the tv screens (knemo) and a green disc (Knetworkmanager). Does indicate that there are two competing services?

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Re: No wifi or wired networking!

#30 Postby kmathern » Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:45 pm

TenderFoot wrote:EDIT The connection is not entirely stable! This may be a consequence of earlier blundering about since the tray is showing two icons - the tv screens (knemo) and a green disc (Knetworkmanager). Does indicate that there are two competing services?
I'm not sure what's causing that. The competing services that I recall were KNetworkmanager and the Mepis Network Assistant. Maybe consult that section of the M8 manual: http://www.mepiscommunity.org/user_manu ... tion05-3-1


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