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Radeon 3000 in M8? [Solved]

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Re: Radeon 3000 in M8?

#21 Post by kmathern » Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:06 pm

TenderFoot wrote:Do you mean in M8 or M11?
I meant M11 where you said you were getting the 1440x900 resolution.
TenderFoot wrote:Before I do that would it be helpful to indicate that M11 uses

xserver-xorg-video-ati

which itself has dependencies (amongst others)

xserver-xorg-video-r128
xserver-xorg-video-mach64
xserver-xorg-video-radeon
xserver-xorg-video-ati is a "wrapper", here's it's description in MX14

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Description-en: X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI display driver wrapper
 This package provides the 'ati' driver for the AMD/ATI Mach64, Rage128,
 Radeon, FireGL, FireMV, FirePro and FireStream series. This driver is
 actually a wrapper that loads one of the 'mach64', 'r128' or 'radeon'
 sub-drivers depending on the hardware.
 These sub-drivers are brought through package dependencies.
I think it was also a "wrapper" in M11 and M8.

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Re: Radeon 3000 in M8?

#22 Post by TenderFoot » Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:23 pm

Mmm. I read the description but don't understand what a "wrapper" in this context. Anyway, the other three that I mentioned above are all installed by default.

Which is just as well as I'm getting gpg errors when trying to reload (after updating repos sources list) but bash doesn't understand --keyserver!

Anyway, output from inxi

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root@MicroOne bin]# inxi -Fxxx
System:    Host: MicroOne Kernel: 2.6.36-1-mepis64-smp x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 4.4.5)
           Desktop: KDE 4.5.3 (Qt 4.7.1) info: plasma-desktop dm: kdm Distro: MEPIS 11.0 squeeze
Machine:   Mobo: ASRock model: 960GC-GS FX serial: M80-3A009900066
           Bios: American Megatrends v: P1.40 date: 10/02/2013
CPU:       Triple core AMD Athlon II X3 455 (-MCP-) cache: 1536 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4a svm) bmips: 19840
           clock speeds: min/max: 800/3300 MHz 1: 800 MHz 2: 800 MHz 3: 800 MHz
Graphics:  Card: ATI 760G [Radeon 3000] bus-ID: 01:05.0 chip-ID: 1002:9616
           Display Server: X.org 1.7.7 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: vesa,fbdev)
           tty size: 124x34 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio:     Card ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) driver: HDA Intel bus-ID: 00:14.2 chip-ID: 1002:4383
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: 1.0.23
Network:   Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller                                            
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: e800 bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168                                        
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: bc:5f:f4:eb:4f:38                                                                      
           Card-2: Ralink driver: rt2870 usb-ID: 001-002 chip-ID: 148f:7601                                                 
           IF: ra0 state: up speed: N/A duplex: N/A mac: 24:3c:20:0a:2a:91                                                  
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (1.6% used)                                                                              
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: Hitachi_HDP72505 size: 500.1GB serial: GEC564RJ2VYYRJ                                      
Partition: ID-1: / size: 9.7G used: 3.7G (40%) fs: ext3 dev: /dev/sda13                                                     
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 4.19GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda8                                              
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 19.5C mobo: N/A                                                                        
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A                                                                                    
Info:      Processes: 174 Uptime: 49 min Memory: 674.1/1756.2MB                                                             
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.88 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Gcc sys: 4.4.5                                                     
           Client: Shell (bash 4.1.51 running in konsole) inxi: 2.2.6

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Re: Radeon 3000 in M8?

#23 Post by kmathern » Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:45 pm

TenderFoot wrote:Anyway, output from inxi ...
Graphics: Card: ATI 760G [Radeon 3000] bus-ID: 01:05.0 chip-ID: 1002:9616
Display Server: X.org 1.7.7 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: vesa,fbdev)
tty size: 124x34 Advanced Data: N/A for root
I think we might have found the reason why it doesn't work in Mepis 8.0.

It looks like the Lenny xserver-xorg-video-radeon driver doesn't support that card (the 1002:9616 pci-id).

I extracted the radeon.ids list from the lenny xserver-xorg-video-radeon package (the /usr/share/xserver-xorg/pci/radeon.ids file shown here: http://archive.debian.net/lenny/amd64/x ... n/filelist).

It goes up to a 1002:9613 pci-id.

M8 is unable to use the radeon driver, it probably tries, finds out it can't use it, and then switches over to the vesa driver. And maybe the vesa driver doesn't support a 1440x900 resolution.

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Re: Radeon 3000 in M8?

#24 Post by TenderFoot » Thu Sep 18, 2014 5:17 pm

Not sure where you glean the numbers from in your link!

Anyway, so the situation is hopeless?

Is the propriety route as described in Post # 347976 http://forum.mepiscommunity.org/viewtop ... 17&t=36863 not an option either (or need too much leverage)?

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Re: Radeon 3000 in M8?

#25 Post by kmathern » Thu Sep 18, 2014 5:53 pm

TenderFoot wrote:Not sure where you glean the numbers from in your link!
In your M8 install take a look at the /usr/share/xserver-xorg/pci/radeon.ids file.
TenderFoot wrote:Anyway, so the situation is hopeless?
It looks hopeless for the Lenny version radeon driver.
TenderFoot wrote:Is the propriety route as described in Post # 347976 http://forum.mepiscommunity.org/viewtop ... 17&t=36863 not an option either (or need too much leverage)?
It might work.

Or maybe try sgfxi, but not it's default fglrx driver, maybe try the oldest fglrx it offers in the 'sgfxi -h' list:
$ sgfxi -h | grep "'supported-drivers:'" -A10
'supported-drivers:' choices require -o <see -o for correct syntax> to install>.
Fglrx: default: 14.5.1
Other supported-drivers: 14.5.1 14.4.2 13.12 14.5.1 14.4.2 13.12 13.9 13-4 13.1 12.10 12-7 12-6
12-4 12-3 12-2 12-1 11-12 11-11 11-10 11-9 11-8 11-7 11-6 11-5 11-4 11-3 11-2 11-1
Nvidia: defaults (current + legacy - 3 2 1): 340.32 304.123 173.14.39 96.43.23 71.86.15
Other supported-drivers: 340.32 340.24 337.25 334.21 331.89 331.79 331.67
325.15 319.72 319.82 319.60 313.30 310.44 304.123 304.121 304.119 295.71
290.10 285.05.09 280.13 275.43 270.41.19 260.19.44 256.53 195.36.31 190.53 185.18.36 180.60 177.82 173.14.37 169.12 100.14.19 96.43.20 71.86.14
The following beta drivers are available:
nvidia: 343.13
fgrlx: 14.7.1
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sgfxi -z -o 11-1
The reason I tell you to use the oldest driver is because fglrx stopped supporting the Radeon 3000 series over 2 years ago. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=a ... acy2&num=1

I think the first number (the "11") in the driver version means it was released in 2011. That's a couple years after Mepis 8 was released and three or four years after the Radeon 3000 series cards were released, so the fglrx driver it installs should support your Radeon 3000.

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Re: Radeon 3000 in M8?

#26 Post by TenderFoot » Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:56 pm

Thank you again for so much research and detail.

How do I get hold of sgfxi. Should I follow http://smxi.org/site/install.htm for instance.

It would be a shame if, after getting esoteric wired and wireless working, I/we fail at this last hurdle!

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Re: Radeon 3000 in M8?

#27 Post by kmathern » Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:01 pm

TenderFoot wrote:How do I get hold of sgfxi. Should I follow http://smxi.org/site/install.htm for instance.
That, or our wiki instructions: http://www.mepis.org/docs/en/index.php? ... 28sgfxi.29

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Re: Radeon 3000 in M8?

#28 Post by lucky9 » Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:49 pm

Sometimes you might have to run sgfxi more than once. At least it's easy to do.
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Re: Radeon 3000 in M8?

#29 Post by kmathern » Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:54 pm

lucky9 wrote:Sometimes you might have to run sgfxi more than once. At least it's easy to do.
You shouldn't need to do that with Mepis 8. The radeon driver wasn't a kernelmodesetting (KMS) driver back then, so you don't need to blacklist it to let you use the fglrx driver.

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Re: Radeon 3000 in M8?

#30 Post by TenderFoot » Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:25 am

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root@MicroOne:/usr/local/bin# sgfxi -z -o 11-1
/usr/local/bin/sgfxi: line 6404: syntax error near unexpected token `>'
/usr/local/bin/sgfxi: line 6404: `                              unzip -l ./$downloadPackage &>>$LOG_FILE || extractError="$?"'
kmathern - you warned of something like this a few moons ago in a (nvidia related) thread http://forum.mepiscommunity.org/viewtop ... 2&start=10 Post #328413.

Presumably a similar edit of the sgfxi script is needed?

Is this the ampersand in line 6404 (in this case) that you refer to removing?
unzip -l ./$downloadPackage &>>$LOG_FILE || extractError="$?"

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