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Re: Audacious Media Player - outdated package (3 years old)

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:54 pm
by seaken64
I have used Audacious. But I never noticed if it was the latest version or not. Seems I didn't care. And this is often the case for me. I often prefer not to upgrade, unless I have a particular need. I use a lot of software older than 2016! If it does what I want I don't notice what year it was released.

Now, a question on the flip side. I'm fine with the Main repo having an updated version. But what if the updated version doesn't work as well for me as the old version? There is no repo named "archive" or "legacy" for older versions of software (or is there?) How do I keep an old version? Is this supported in the MX Package Installer somewhere? I can't see how that would work.

Seaken64

Re: Audacious Media Player - outdated package (3 years old)

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:56 pm
by Stevo
seaken64 wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:54 pm
I have used Audacious. But I never noticed if it was the latest version or not. Seems I didn't care. And this is often the case for me. I often prefer not to upgrade, unless I have a particular need. I use a lot of software older than 2016! If it does what I want I don't notice what year it was released.

Now, a question on the flip side. I'm fine with the Main repo having an updated version. But what if the updated version doesn't work as well for me as the old version? There is no repo named "archive" or "legacy" for older versions of software (or is there?) How do I keep an old version? Is this supported in the MX Package Installer somewhere? I can't see how that would work.

Seaken64
apt, aptitude, or Synaptic support installing the specific older version in Stretch.

Re: Audacious Media Player - outdated package (3 years old)

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:13 pm
by malspa
colin_b wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:09 pm
Audacious 3.3 released
Uh, check the date on that, I think.

Re: Audacious Media Player - outdated package (3 years old)

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:16 pm
by asqwerth
LOL

Re: Audacious Media Player - outdated package (3 years old)

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:26 pm
by colin_b
malspa wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:13 pm
Uh, check the date on that, I think.
You're right :eek:

I assumed that release 3.3 would be more recent than 3.10.1 - numbering schemes generally do a simple increment, and this would result in v3.9 moving on to v4. Audacious confused things by going from v3.9 to v3.10 - I didn't realise this.

I'll look at the date articles are posted next time to avoid wasted posts here.

:embarrassed:

Re: Audacious Media Player - outdated package (3 years old)

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:42 am
by Eadwine Rose
I see this in other places too.. I believe the kernels do this. Mighty confusing so you're not alone ;)

Re: Audacious Media Player - outdated package (3 years old)

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:53 am
by JayM
That's thrown me off too, especially when (in the instance of kernels in the stable repo) 4.14 through 4.20 are displayed before 4.9. I think that's the standard Unix sorting order. To get around that the 4.9 series of kernels would need a leading zero before the nine, but the kernel naming (numbering) convention doesn't do that.

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