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MX 17 Repository: The Pale Moon Browser Thread

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Re: MX 17 Repository: The Pale Moon Browser Thread

#11 Post by MX-16_fan » Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:14 am

@Stevo:
Stevo wrote:OK, I did a little research, and Pale Moon, like Firefox, has the option to add a Master password before anyone can access your stored password. So no passerby or thief can access them. They are encrypted either way in your profile, but the Master password keeps others out.
Thanks a lot!

So unless someone gets physical access to your running machine, Pale Moon saves your passwords in a "safe" fashion even if you don't use a Master password. Correct?


Greetings, and have a good week, Joe

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Re: MX 17 Repository: The Pale Moon Browser Thread

#12 Post by Stevo » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:00 pm

So unless someone gets physical access to your running machine, Pale Moon saves your passwords in a "safe" fashion even if you don't use a Master password. Correct?
That's what I get from reading the FAQs. That only makes sense, and I would assume every browser that can save passwords does the same thing.

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Re: MX 17 Repository: The Pale Moon Browser Thread

#13 Post by MX-16_fan » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:24 pm

@Stevo:
Stevo wrote:
So unless someone gets physical access to your running machine, Pale Moon saves your passwords in a "safe" fashion even if you don't use a Master password. Correct?
That's what I get from reading the FAQs. That only makes sense, and I would assume every browser that can save passwords does the same thing.
Every good browser :number1:. Thanks, and greetings, Joe

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Re: MX 17 Repository: The Pale Moon Browser Thread

#14 Post by Stevo » Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:15 pm

Pale Moon 27.8.0 is now in the main repository.

This is a development update with new and improved features and bugfixes.

Changes/fixes:

Added support for emojis on Windows systems that have relatively poor support for them with standard font sets by including our own font (EmojiOne based for now).
Added a setting in preferences to select the use of tab previews with Ctrl+Tab.
Added Eyedropper menu entry to the AppMenu.
Added a preference to control whether the text cursor (caret) should be thicker when dealing with CJK characters or not (default = yes).
Added URL fix-ups for schemes (mis-typed "ttp://" etc.).
Added support for ES6 "Symbol species".
Updated our TLS 1.3 support to the latest (probably final) draft.
Fixed gap inconsistency in the tabstrip.
Fixed a number of browser crashes.
Fixed a crash with the exponentiation operator "**"
Set the performance timer granularity to 1 ms.
Updated the kiss-fft library to our forked 1.4.0 version.
Disabled a potentially problematic optimization on Win 8+ with high contrast themes in use.
Removed the notification bar when in full screen to prevent unwanted visible screen elements.
Removed unmaintained and insecure WebRTC code - building with WebRTC enabled is no longer an option.
Removed redundant checks for "Vista or later" since that is all we support.
Added display of the http status to raw request displays.
Added a workaround for cloned videos not retaining their muted state.
Added a temporary workaround to avoid crashes on trackless media.
Removed some superfluous ellipses from menu labels.
Fixed undesired shrinking of line heights as a result of setting minimum font size in preferences.
Fixed some issues with setting the new tab preference (regression).

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Re: MX 17 Repository: The Pale Moon Browser Thread

#15 Post by Gordon Cooper » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:37 am

Thanks Stevo. 27.8 Installed and no problems (yet) looks like many of the fixes were Win related. Certainly no issues with MX. Overall, am very happy to have abandoned Firefox, PM does all the browsing I need, and without any of the FF issues that forum members keep reporting.

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Re: MX 17 Repository: The Pale Moon Browser Thread

#16 Post by MX-16_fan » Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:10 pm

@Stevo:
MX-16_fan wrote:@Stevo:
Stevo wrote:
So unless someone gets physical access to your running machine, Pale Moon saves your passwords in a "safe" fashion even if you don't use a Master password. Correct?
That's what I get from reading the FAQs. That only makes sense, and I would assume every browser that can save passwords does the same thing.
Every good browser :number1:. Thanks, and greetings, Joe
PS Just happened to find an old discussion here: https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?p=14888#p14888, where the Pale Moon chief says: "Passwords in Pale Moon are secure, provided you are using a strong Master Password (that's not easy to guess)." Any idea what he could mean by that? Really the "thief" scenario only? Or does that relate to Pale Moon Sync also? Greetings, Joe

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Re: MX 17 Repository: The Pale Moon Browser Thread

#17 Post by MX-16_fan » Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:40 pm

@all:

Just found a great workaround for the problem of missing search plugins for localized Wikipedia sites (i.e. other than EN).

I installed Malte Kraus' "Add to Search Bar" Add-on from http://addons.palemoon.org/addon/add-to-search-bar/ and followed the instructions given here: https://firefox.maltekraus.de/extension ... search-bar.

Now I can easily search whatever language's Wikipedia I like (and a gazillion of other sites).

I guess this might be helpful for some of you.

What a cool add-on!


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Re: MX 17 Repository: The Pale Moon Browser Thread

#18 Post by Stevo » Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:54 pm

Any password should be resistant to brute force attacks, regardless whether a bad guy gets access to your hardware or not. What a strong password means is easily found via web searches.

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Re: MX 17 Repository: The Pale Moon Browser Thread

#19 Post by MX-16_fan » Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:09 am

@Stevo:
Stevo wrote:Any password should be resistant to brute force attacks, regardless whether a bad guy gets access to your hardware or not. What a strong password means is easily found via web searches.
But not using a Master Password at all does not mean that

a) the Pale Moon Sync server gets your data in plain, nor that
b) Pale Moon locally saves your login data in plain.

Correct?


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Re: MX 17 Repository: The Pale Moon Browser Thread

#20 Post by vksan » Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:43 am

MX-16_fan -

>Master Password and passwords

I remember researching this several years ago. (I realize we are discussing Pale Moon ...) Back in the day, one needed a master password to encrypt the passwords. This is from 2009:

https://luxsci.com/blog/master-password ... rbird.html

Mozilla's page about the Master Password, updated in 2018:

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Master_password

Pale Moon forum entry by Moonchild (developer of Pale Moon), dated 2016:

https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.ph ... ted#p81494

A very recent discussion about the Master Password on the Pale Moon forums (note Moonchild has included a link to a bug report and the bug report contains a link to Mozilla's bug report):

https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=18643

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