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MX 15 Repository: The Xscreensaver Thread.

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MX 15 Repository: The Xscreensaver Thread.

#1 Post by Stevo » Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:04 pm

Debian has started keeping up with the releases, so 5.34 is now in the test repository, sourced from upstream Debian. This is a minor bugfix release:
* New upstream release 5.34
- Fixed a crash when hot-swapping monitors while locked.
(Closes: #802914)
- Fixed some incorrect output from xscreensaver-command -watch.

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Re: MX 15 Repository: The Xscreensaver Thread.

#2 Post by Stevo » Fri Apr 01, 2016 1:36 pm

It appears that 5.30 is now throwing up the "old version" nag screen for Jessie users, and there's no backport version--but the right way to do it would be to patch that nag message out of xscreensaver.


I'll see if Tim will move 5.34 to the main repo.

I found that Slackware disables that nag screen, and have adapted their patch for our 5.34. I guess I'll rebuild it to disable that "feature".

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Re: MX 15 Repository: The Xscreensaver Thread.

#3 Post by v3g4n » Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:05 pm

Here's the developers response to patching so that the warning doesn't appear.
For those of you who can't be bothered to read the code, here's what the comment says.

I stand by my words here: If you are considering removing this warning, then I ask that instead, you remove
the XScreenSaver software from Debian entirely. I believe Gnome-Screensaver will be more to your liking anyway.

/* If you are in here because you're planning on disabling this warning
before redistributing my software, please don't.

I sincerely request that you do one of the following:

1: leave this code intact and this warning in place, -OR-

2: Remove xscreensaver from your distribution.

I would seriously prefer that you not distribute my software at all
than that you distribute one version and then never update it for
years.

I am *constantly* getting email from users reporting bugs that have
been fixed for literally years who have no idea that the software
they are running is years out of date. Yes, it would be great if we
lived in the ideal world where people checked that they were running
the latest release before they report a bug, but we don't. To most
people, "running the latest release" is synonymous with "running the
latest release that my distro packages for me."

When they even bother to tell me what version they're running, I
say, "That version is three years old!", and they say "But this is
the latest version my distro ships". Then I say, "your distro
sucks", and they say "but I don't know how to compile from source,
herp derp I eat paste", and *everybody* goes away unhappy.

It wastes an enormous amount of my time, and kind of makes me regret
ever having released this software in the first place.

So seriously. I ask that if you're planning on disabling this
obsolescence warning, that you instead just remove xscreensaver from
your distro entirely. Everybody will be happier that way. Check
out gnome-screensaver instead, I understand it's really nice.

Of course, my license allows you to ignore me and do whatever the
xxxxxxx you want, but as the author, I hope you will have the common
courtesy of complying with my request.

Thank you!

jwz, 2014
*/
Source:
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux. ... al/1343392

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Re: MX 15 Repository: The Xscreensaver Thread.

#4 Post by Jerry3904 » Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:22 pm

PITA
Production: 4.15.0-1-amd64, MX-17.1, AMD FX-4130 Quad-Core, GeForce GT 630/PCIe/SSE2, 8 GB, Kingston SSD 120 GB and WesternDigital 1TB
Testing: AAO 722: 4.15.0-1-386. MX-17.1, AMD C-60 APU, 4 GB

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Re: MX 15 Repository: The Xscreensaver Thread.

#5 Post by Stevo » Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:37 pm

Yeah, but his example would be mirrored by any software in Stable, however, he's the only one that goes to the extreme of adding that nag screen.

I did set up an OBS xscreensaver repo for the Jessie "paste-eaters", since others started giving tips about installing the Sid version on Jessie...
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Re: MX 15 Repository: The Xscreensaver Thread.

#6 Post by anticapitalista » Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:40 pm

Just move the version we have in testing to jessie. It is the latest version upstream
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Re: MX 15 Repository: The Xscreensaver Thread.

#7 Post by Stevo » Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:52 pm

anticapitalista wrote:Just move the version we have in testing to jessie. It is the latest version upstream
I asked Tim to do that our version. I guess Debian will have the choice of patching 5.30 or updating it to 5.34 in Stable, but they never updated nagging versions in past releases. I read that the nag screen can also be disabled if xscreener is launched with the --no-splash option.

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Re: MX 15 Repository: The Xscreensaver Thread.

#8 Post by anticapitalista » Fri Apr 01, 2016 3:15 pm

Stevo wrote: I asked Tim to do that our version. I guess Debian will have the choice of patching 5.30 or updating it to 5.34 in Stable, but they never updated nagging versions in past releases. I read that the nag screen can also be disabled if xscreener is launched with the --no-splash option.
That's why we are better than Debian :number1:
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Re: MX 15 Repository: The Xscreensaver Thread.

#9 Post by Stevo » Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:37 pm

An experimental build of xscreensaver 5.36 is now in the test repository to see if it can fix the crashing issues. You may have to remove the .xscreensaver file in your home to get it to create a new one and "see" the new screensavers added since 5.34, which are:

cubestack
cubetwist
discoball
dymaxionmap
energystream
hexstrut
hydrostat
raverhoop
splodesic
unicrud

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Re: MX 15 Repository: The Xscreensaver Thread.

#10 Post by zeeone » Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:37 am

okay I will give it a shot on the 64 bit MX15. :popcorn:
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