Welcome!

The kernel problem with recent updates has been solved. Find the solution here

Important information
-- Required MX 15/16 Repository Changes
-- Information on torrent hosting changes
-- Information on MX15/16 GPG Keys
-- Spectre and Meltdown vulnerabilities

News
-- Introducing our new Website
-- MX Linux on social media: here

Current releases
-- MX-18.3 Point Release release info here
-- Migration Information to MX-18 here
-- antiX-17.4.1 release info here

New users
-- Please read this first, and don't forget to add system and hardware information to posts!
-- Here are the Forum Rules

Dedicated application for kernel installation/upgrades

philotux
Forum Regular
Forum Regular
Posts: 428
Joined: Sun Apr 22, 2018 12:57 pm

Re: Dedicated application for kernel installation/upgrades

#21

Post by philotux » Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:01 am

Can antiX kernels invariably be installed on MX as well?

User avatar
manyroads
Forum Guide
Forum Guide
Posts: 1753
Joined: Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:33 pm

Re: Dedicated application for kernel installation/upgrades

#22

Post by manyroads » Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:02 am

anticapitalista wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:59 am
manyroads wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:50 am


I had to abandon antix-4.20.0 64-bit as well. It had fatal VirtualBox failures. :confused:
You need to use virtualbox6 with any 4.20 kernel.
Thank you @anticapitalista... I just turn on VBox 6 yesterday. I'll try 4.20. again! Yes @philotux I like using antiX kernels and have for many months. :number1:
Pax vobiscum,
Mark Rabideau - http://many-roads.com - Reg. Linux User #449130
bspwm MX-18.3 kernel: 5.1.11-antix.1-amd64-smp
"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." H. L. Mencken

User avatar
manyroads
Forum Guide
Forum Guide
Posts: 1753
Joined: Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:33 pm

Re: Dedicated application for kernel installation/upgrades

#23

Post by manyroads » Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:22 am

I agree with @handy's comments regarding making this into a big (huge??) task. The whole manjaro MWHD thing is actually amazing. I won't suggest that route.

However, it occurs to me that there might be a pretty straight forward option available in MX Tools (MXPI). The question is could MXPI handle having a new Tab dedicated to listing 'available kernels and headers'? Right now they appear in a couple of places. Perhaps if all available and approved kernels showed up in just one place and cold be readily identified, that would solve about 90% of the desire to make kernel options more simple.

Anyway, just a thought. :eek:
Pax vobiscum,
Mark Rabideau - http://many-roads.com - Reg. Linux User #449130
bspwm MX-18.3 kernel: 5.1.11-antix.1-amd64-smp
"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." H. L. Mencken

philotux
Forum Regular
Forum Regular
Posts: 428
Joined: Sun Apr 22, 2018 12:57 pm

Re: Dedicated application for kernel installation/upgrades

#24

Post by philotux » Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:39 am

manyroads wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:22 am
Perhaps if all available and approved kernels showed up in just one place and cold be readily identified, that would solve about 90% of the desire to make kernel options more simple.
This is what actually triggered me to post about this. To have them all "under one roof". From a user perspective, it would be much easier to pick a kernel by version and get some information about it whether it's long term supported etc. and not have to pinpoint each and every package needed to be installed.

Linux Mint has something like this. The kernel installation is integrated into Update Manager but it has a separate dedicated space where you will see lists of all the kernels available for each version serie, changelogs and whether or not they are LTS.

User avatar
richb
Administrator
Posts: 19235
Joined: Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:17 pm

Re: Dedicated application for kernel installation/upgrades

#25

Post by richb » Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:41 am

MXPI>Popular Apps>Kernels is not sufficient?
Forum Rules
Guide - How to Ask for Help

Rich
SSD Production: MX 18.1
AMD A8 7600 FM2+ CPU R7 Graphics, 16 GIG Mem. Three Samsung EVO SSD's 250 GB, 350 GB HD

User avatar
anticapitalista
Forum Veteran
Forum Veteran
Posts: 6283
Joined: Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:40 am

Re: Dedicated application for kernel installation/upgrades

#26

Post by anticapitalista » Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:44 am

antiX has a cli app called cli-aptiX that shows available kernels.

https://download.tuxfamily.org/antix/do ... #under-toc
anticapitalista
Reg. linux user #395339.

Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

antiX-17 "Heather Heyer" - lean and mean.
https://antixlinux.com

User avatar
dolphin_oracle
Forum Veteran
Forum Veteran
Posts: 12144
Joined: Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:17 pm

Re: Dedicated application for kernel installation/upgrades

#27

Post by dolphin_oracle » Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:00 am

anticapitalista wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:44 am
antiX has a cli app called cli-aptiX that shows available kernels.

https://download.tuxfamily.org/antix/do ... #under-toc
the antiX app anti mentioned is pre-installed on MX. It shows up in the menu as "Command Line apt-based package manager".
http://www.youtube.com/runwiththedolphin
lenovo ThinkPad T530 - MX-18.3
lenovo s21e - antiX-19 beta 2 (live-USB)
FYI: mx "test" repo is not the same thing as debian testing repo.

philotux
Forum Regular
Forum Regular
Posts: 428
Joined: Sun Apr 22, 2018 12:57 pm

Re: Dedicated application for kernel installation/upgrades

#28

Post by philotux » Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:02 am

dolphin_oracle wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:00 am
anticapitalista wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:44 am
antiX has a cli app called cli-aptiX that shows available kernels.

https://download.tuxfamily.org/antix/do ... #under-toc
the antiX app anti mentioned is pre-installed on MX. It shows up in the menu as "Command Line apt-based package manager".
Thanks anti and d_o for the info! I got it.

User avatar
zorzi
Forum Regular
Forum Regular
Posts: 239
Joined: Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:41 pm

Re: Dedicated application for kernel installation/upgrades

#29

Post by zorzi » Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:03 am

anticapitalista wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:44 am
antiX has a cli app called cli-aptiX that shows available kernels.

https://download.tuxfamily.org/antix/do ... #under-toc
I hadn't heard about this app. Thanks.
Desktop: HP Pavilion a6435 (Athlon64 2x 2,6Ghz, Radeon R7-240, Ram 4 Go, HD 500 Go) / MX Linux 17

philotux
Forum Regular
Forum Regular
Posts: 428
Joined: Sun Apr 22, 2018 12:57 pm

Re: Dedicated application for kernel installation/upgrades

#30

Post by philotux » Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:12 am

richb wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:41 am
MXPI>Popular Apps>Kernels is not sufficient?
At least to me, it looks more complicated for the test repo.
Please see: viewtopic.php?f=108&t=48266

Here is one post in that thread from Stevo:
Stevo wrote:
Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:50 am
The test repo also has a kernel and header metapackage for each architecture, which should upgrade you to the latest kernel automatically if installed, but the last time I backported it from Sid it was still at 4.19.0-1. I'll see if it's been updated. The package names are slightly simpler for the metapackages, such as

linux-image-amd64
linux-headers-amd64

It's more complicated than that for the 32-bit kernels, since there are pae and nonpae versions.

We also have Liquorix kernels, which in turn have their own metapackages.

It's enough to turn you off computers altogether:

Image
Of course a legitimate question is why I as a novice should care about kernels in the test repo. It surely is more than good enough to have one which works well on my hardware and keep at it.

Post Reply

Return to “General”