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[Solved] Problems installing packages of another Distro

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Re: Problems installing packages of another Distro

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Post by manyroads » Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:55 am

asqwerth wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 3:55 am
Ah ha, now I recall that Salent used to be Ubuntu based.

Stevo may have hit on the issue.
Do I hear brakes squealing and see dust beginning to fly???? :footinmouth:
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Re: Problems installing packages of another Distro

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Post by Mich-C » Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:29 pm

Thank you guys
Stevo wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:42 pm
what "inxi -r" reported when it's added to your system?
Giving inxi -r now with the salentOS repo imported gives:

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 Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 
           1: deb http://iso.mxrepo.com/antix/stretch/ stretch main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://it.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ stretch main non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/opera-stable.list 
           1: deb https://deb.opera.com/opera-stable/ stable non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/salentos.list 
           1: deb http://repository.salentos.it/ trusty main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/sublime-text.list 
           1: deb https://download.sublimetext.com/ apt/stable/
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Stevo wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:42 pm
Can you show us the exact instructions you used to add the repo?
I used the official instruction to import the repo (http://repository.salentos.it)

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deb http://repository.salentos.it trusty main
$ sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 748FA6CBA8A9D1EC
$ sudo apt-get update
I forgot that "trusty" stands for "ubuntu trusty tahr"... at this point I deduce that instructions are outdated
It seems that the new Stretch repository for SalentOS is:

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deb http://repository.salentos.it/neriton/ neriton main

I've just removed the old repo and I gave these commands
JayM wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 4:38 am

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sudo apt update
and

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sudo apt autoremove --purge
I haven't imported the new stretch repo since you're saying me that it can cause problems too.
(Anyway I could also try to test it in a virtual machine :happy: )

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Re: Problems installing packages of another Distro

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Post by Stevo » Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:47 pm

If they are doing their packaging correctly, then a Stretch-based repository should be safe, especially if you only are installing themes from it.

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Re: Problems installing packages of another Distro

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Post by Mich-C » Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:01 pm

gosia wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 5:24 am
you can set themes and import new themes from https://www.box-look.org/browse/cat/140/ as well.
Hi gosia, sorry again.
It seems that an openbox theme is just a .obt file that changes colors and icons for the windows.
I don't understand some things:

1)Why the "openbox" section of www.box-look.org is full of openbox themes that requires Lubuntu, a desktop environment and so on?
For example why is this theme in the openbox section if it's a lxde theme?

2)I know that I can install docks but more than that How can I "simulate" a desktop on openbox?
I know that openbox is limited and I can't do things like drag-n-drop and I don't pretend to do things like that...
but as you can see SalentOS has a bar with time, battery icon etc... is that openbox too?
Moreover it has a customized "right-click" openbox menu (I can't change it with .obt themes)

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Re: Problems installing packages of another Distro

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Post by gosia » Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:00 pm

Sorry, it's late, so just a quick guide. The other questions I can answer only tomorrow

These themes are available in two variants, as a themes archive (single file with the extension *.obt) or as a collection of files in a directory. There are also files packed with tar, zip, etc. (*.zip, *.tar.gz, ...), which you must first unpack with your favorite packer program to see whether it is a *.obt file or a theme directory.

The first variant (*.obt) is the easiest:

1. download *.obt-file and save it on your computer
2. Call obconf -> menu item "Install new themes...".
3. select the just saved *.obt-file in the opening file selection -> finished
4. obconf automatically saves the new themes directory as a subdirectory in ~/.themes/ and can select it in the obconf window. This selected theme becomes effective immediately, no restart required.

If, on the other hand, you have a directory with several files, you first have to create a theme archive *.obt from it:

1. Call obconf -> menu item "Create theme archive (.obt)".
2. Select the downloaded directory in the file selection that opens.
3. obconf reports "/PATH/TO/THEME/thema.obt was successfully created".
4. install this newly created file *.obt as above from point 2. then with obconf.

I don't know if obconf's menu points are the same. My obconf is german.
Mich-C wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:01 pm
1)Why the "openbox" section of www.box-look.org is full of openbox themes that requires Lubuntu, a desktop environment and so on?
For example why is this theme in the openbox section if it's a lxde theme?
The themes do not need Lubuntu. It is only called Lubuntu because it uses Openbox as window manager. I installed this theme without any problems. unzipped the file and converted the directory win8 to win8.obt.

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Re: Problems installing packages of another Distro

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Post by turtlebay777 » Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:12 pm

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Re: Problems installing packages of another Distro

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Post by Mich-C » Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:21 am

gosia wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:00 pm
Sorry, it's late, so just a quick guide. The other questions I can answer only tomorrow
No problem. Many thanks for the detailed instructions! :happy:
gosia wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:00 pm
These themes are available in two variants
The first variant (*.obt) is the easiest:
Yes, now I remember. in the past I installed themes this way.
gosia wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:00 pm
If, on the other hand, you have a directory with several files, you first have to create a theme archive *.obt from it:
Wow! It makes sense know. I tought "I'll never use the create .obt function since I'm not creating a theme"... but its function is to convert .zip an so on into .obt!

I thought that installing that win8 theme converting the .zip archive to .obt would have allowed me to use its start menu and the bottom bar , but they need lxqt to work.
I don't want to install another DE like lxqt, that's why I asked what softwares can run on top of openbox to allow me to use bars with icons, desktop launchers and so on... Something like concky on xfce! (I don't even know if it would be possible to use concky on openbox)

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Re: Problems installing packages of another Distro

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Post by gosia » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:25 am

Openbox is a Windows manager, not a desktop environment. A Windows manager is "below" the desktop environment, so to speak.
https://wiki.debian.org/Openbox
Therefore Openbox can also work with Lubuntu, Gnome or KDE. So the themes are not "Lubuntu themes", but themes for Openbox.
Mich-C wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:01 pm
How can I "simulate" a desktop on openbox?
I don't understand. What do you mean by "simulate a desktop"?
Mich-C wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:01 pm
but as you can see SalentOS has a bar with time, battery icon etc..
for this you have to use a taskbar like tint2.
https://wiki.debian.org/Openbox#Taskbars_and_pagers
Mich-C wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:01 pm
Moreover it has a customized "right-click" openbox menu (I can't change it with .obt themes)
The appearance of the Openbox Menu already changes with the selected themes.

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Mich-C wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:21 am
I thought that installing that win8 theme converting the .zip archive to .obt would have allowed me to use its start menu and the bottom bar ,
No, an Openbox theme is just a theme, look, colors, etc. This does not install a start menu or bottom bar. You still have to install this yourself.
You don't need LXQT. I also only have Openbox and xfce and choose what I start. Everything you need is available in MX; Taskbar, Conky etc., that also works with Openbox.

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Re: Problems installing packages of another Distro

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Post by Mich-C » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:39 pm

Thanks for the info about openbox.
I installes some themes (win8 in the second screenshot)
theme.jpg
theme2.jpg

gosia wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:25 am
for this you have to use a taskbar like tint2.
https://wiki.debian.org/Openbox#Taskbars_and_pagers
Yes, I didn't remember the name. This is what I was looking for!
I haven't tryed yet to add concky. I'll try using Concky Manager included in MX, I think it should work on Openbox too.
gosia wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:25 am
I don't understand. What do you mean by "simulate a desktop"?
I run linux on my cheap tablet too.
Now that I've learned how to correctly install openbox and .obt themes I want to lanch apps/softwares on openbox just touching icons from the openbox desktop (if it's correct to call it this way XD )
I don't use the mouse with my tablet so I can't use the right-click to run apps. To avoid the right click I can use a Dock like Plank etc. But using a dock I can use only a small portion of the screen. I'll want to add (possiibly big) icons on the whole desktop.
To do this I read that I can use Nautilus to add file-manager capabilities to the Openbox desktop (https://askubuntu.com/questions/967294/ ... in-openbox) but I'm looking for a simper solution: for me it's ok to ONLY SHOW icons, I don't drag/copy file on the desktop.
I use this 2gb tablet to draw and animate so every MB saved in Ram is a good thing :number1:

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PS. I'm marking the thread as solved.
I've checked the new salentOS repo and it seems it doesn't include the openbox and tint2 themes at all, so no problem, now I'll customize openbox by myself :happy:
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Re: [Solved] Problems installing packages of another Distro

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Post by Stevo » Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:00 pm

Manyroads and Head-on-a-Stick here do have some experience setting up an Openbox sort of desktop...Doesn't manyroads have an ISO of MX with OpenBox?

I wonder if you can also set up the Bunsen Labs desktop on MX by running their script that would convert Debian to BL. Make a backup/personal snapshot first, of course.

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