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Music Manager Software other than Clementine/Strawberry

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Re: Music Manager Software other than Clementine/Strawberry

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Post by seaken64 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 8:31 pm

I ended up using a LiveUSB and turned off persistence. So I avoided the clutter by just rebooting. Now that I have chosen my packages I will install them on the LiveUSB and remaster.

Thanks for everyone's suggestions and help.

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Re: Music Manager Software other than Clementine/Strawberry

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Post by Stevo » Fri Mar 29, 2019 8:33 pm

seaken64 wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 8:19 pm
Stevo wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2019 1:35 pm
Don't forget to check the test repo to see if you can get a newer version there, too!

https://repology.org/project/cantata/versions
I tried to use the newer version from the test repo. But it threw up an error about dependencies. This was on antiX. The version in the standard repo works.

The newer version installed fine on MX.
antiX users can install the updated cantata from the same OBS repo I've mentioned earlier in this thread, along with a lot of other multimedia applications.

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Re: Music Manager Software other than Clementine/Strawberry

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Post by seaken64 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 8:37 pm

Stevo wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 8:33 pm
antiX users can install the updated cantata from the same OBS repo I've mentioned earlier in this thread, along with a lot of other multimedia applications.
Forgive me for being such a dolt. I looked at that link but I could not figure out how to use your OBS repo. I will read it again.

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Re: Music Manager Software other than Clementine/Strawberry

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Post by seaken64 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:56 pm

Ok, I figured out to add the OBS Repo. I copied and pasted from the website you linked me to and added it to the "various.list" file. I updated and then installed mpd and cantata. Both were updated to the latest. I then used the Control Centre Repo Manager and turned if off and then updated again.

Cantata is working good on antiX on my secondary laptop at home. It is a DualCore Pentium with 2GB RAM. Hopefully it will work well on the Pentium 4 laptop with 1GB RAM. I'll test it this weekend.

I wonder if guayadeque from your repo might work. I will try it. The install I attempted before only half worked.

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Re: Music Manager Software other than Clementine/Strawberry

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Post by golden45 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:05 pm

What visualizations are included ?john

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Re: Music Manager Software other than Clementine/Strawberry

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Post by seaken64 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:34 pm

seaken64 wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:56 pm
I wonder if guayadeque from your repo might work. I will try it. The install I attempted before only half worked.
No, guayadeque does not play Shoutcast streams. It did install correctly this time with the menu entry. And the database updates. But the streams only play for about 8 seconds and then it stops. Same as before.

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Re: Music Manager Software other than Clementine/Strawberry

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Post by seaken64 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:40 pm

golden45 wrote:
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What visualizations are included ?john
Cantata visualizations seem to be limited. I haven't found any yet.

Audacious has three. 2 Spectrum Analyzers, 1 Blur Scope.
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Re: Music Manager Software other than Clementine/Strawberry

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Post by golden45 » Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:33 pm

Projectm is used in clementine have you tried these?john

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Re: Music Manager Software other than Clementine/Strawberry

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Post by seaken64 » Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:20 pm

golden45 wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:33 pm
Projectm is used in clementine have you tried these?john
I do use Clementine in MX on my more powerful systems. But I wanted something else for use on an old single-core P4 laptop running antiX-32 bit. Cantata and Audacious fit the bill. I don't care about visualizations. I just need to get music into the store's stereo.

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Re: Music Manager Software other than Clementine/Strawberry

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Post by seaken64 » Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:22 pm

I did have some problems with Cantata on antiX

i’ve had mixed results with the installation of Cantata. The first time I installed it was on an MX-18 system and it had no problems. I wanted to put it on an antiX LiveUSB 32-bit. I had a LiveUSB of antiX already working so I installed it on that stick. The install went fine and the program was entered on the IceWM menu. But when I clicked it, it did not start. I opened the terminal and typed “cantata”. I got a message about using qt5ct plugin and it did not start and returned to the prompt.

Next, I entered “sudo cantata”, and this time it started up. I tested it and it played music. When I closed the program the music continued to play. I opened up “top” and noticed mpd was still an open process. I used the terminal to kill the process and the music stopped.

I can’t remember exactly now but I did get it to work on that stick. I think I removed the persistence files and made new ones and then did a full update and upgrade, then reinstalled from Stevo’s OBS multimedia repo. I chalked it up to some errant bits on the USB drive.

I tried installing Cantata again on another LiveUSB I had that I made about a year ago but is fully updated. I added Stevo’s OSB Multimedia repo and installed Cantata. It installed fine and I tested it and it worked good. And it properly shutdown. I opened “top” while running and could see both mpd and cantata running. When I quit the program both processes went away.

Next, after having practiced the setup successfully three times, I attempted to put Cantata on my LiveUSB that I use on my music player laptop for the office. I did an update and upgrade and did a remaster. That went fine. Then I added Stevo’s repo and installed mpd and cantata.
Same thing. Could not launch from menu. It would launch from terminal with sudo. Seems there is some permissions issue similar to what I had on that first USB.

I tried starting over with the latest 17.4.1 iso. I recreated the LiveUSB with MX LUM. I booted it and made the persistence files. Then I updated and upgraded and added the OBS Multimedia Repo and installed Cantata. The install went fine and the program launches from the IceWM menu and I can modify the interface settings. But when I try to play anything it just starts for one second then pauses. If I click play it does the same thing. I can’t get it to play. It does close down properly.

I researched the permissions issue and tried using chmod to change the file permissions for cantata but it didn’t make a difference. When I used “ls -l” I could see that Cantata was owned by root. But that shouldn’t matter as my user is a sudo user. Anyway, I could not figure it out. And I was wondering why it was working on several other installation but not this one.

Finally, I had the idea to use the “Clone” option in the live-usb-maker. I started up my frugal antiX install on my main laptop and put in both the working USB and the non-working USB. I fired up live-usb-maker and selected the non-working USB as the target. I was a little confused at first about how to select the source USB but I figured it out. I selected the mount location for the working USB (in the /media folder) and then clicked on start. live-usb-maker proceeded to make the new LiveUSB writing over the non-working stick. After it was done I shutdown and booted the newly created LiveUSB (clone), It worked! Cantata works normally. I moved the newly cloned LiveUSB back over to the music laptop and tested. It works! So now all I have to do is change the user and wallpaper and add some launchers to the desktop.

I do not know if it is significant but both of the sticks I had trouble with were Sandisk brand. I do have Cantata working on both of these sticks now but it took some doing. The other two sticks were a PNY and a Lexar. I also had no problems installing Cantata on two hard disk frugal installs. I also installed Audacious on all the same installs. Audacious always worked with no problems. Cantata twice failed. But it is not consistent and I did eventually get Cantata working on all systems.

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