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Re: keyring prompt

#21 Post by Mauser » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:31 pm

dolphin_oracle wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:55 pm
gnome-keyring is there because wifi password prompts in network-manager do not work without it (in other words, when you select a network, it never asks for a password). if you are OK with the connection editor dialog (via "Network-Connections in the menu), then gnome-keyring can be removed.

otherwise, you can create a new menu entry with the "--password-store=basic %F" added to the google-chrome (and/or chromium) command (as was mentioned above).
Why this only happens with Chromium and not with Firefox?

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Re: keyring prompt

#22 Post by Mauser » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:34 pm

Thanks fehlix. That worked.

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Re: keyring prompt

#23 Post by dolphin_oracle » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:34 pm

Mauser wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:31 pm
dolphin_oracle wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:55 pm
gnome-keyring is there because wifi password prompts in network-manager do not work without it (in other words, when you select a network, it never asks for a password). if you are OK with the connection editor dialog (via "Network-Connections in the menu), then gnome-keyring can be removed.

otherwise, you can create a new menu entry with the "--password-store=basic %F" added to the google-chrome (and/or chromium) command (as was mentioned above).
Why this only happens with Chromium and not with Firefox?
because chromium and chrome will use the keyring. firefox doesn't, apparently.
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Re: keyring prompt

#24 Post by dolphin_oracle » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:21 am

I'm seeing some scuttlebut elsewhere on the web about this keyring thing with chrome/chromium.

What some folks are saying is that the prompt gets triggered if you are using autologin. I don't know about that, so I thought I would ask here if anyone is using autologin.
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Re: keyring prompt

#25 Post by clicktician » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:35 am

I'm using autologin on my tablet. I just updated from google-chrome-stable 69.0.3497.81-1 to 69.0.3497.92-1.

My keyring seems to be working as expected. If I blank the keyring password, Chrome no longer prompts me for it -- or attempts to set up a new keyring.

Exiting Chrome during a keyring prompt no longer generates a crash report the next time Chrome is started.

Chrome now syncs both with and without the keyring.

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Re: keyring prompt

#26 Post by fehlix » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:36 am

dolphin_oracle wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:21 am
I'm seeing some scuttlebut elsewhere on the web about this keyring thing with chrome/chromium.

What some folks are saying is that the prompt gets triggered if you are using autologin. I don't know about that, so I thought I would ask here if anyone is using autologin.
OK:
If you have disables autlogin, i.e. you need type in your password, the libpam-gnomekeyring,
will automatically unlock your default login-keyring ( if keyring-password matchs login password).

If you enable autologin, pam will not unlock the keyring, as no password was given.
Now Chromium checks the availablity of gnome-keying and tries to access
the locked keyring ( to fetch or if new to save its internal encryption keys)

Given that the long list of questions in different forums since years about the same issue,
we might consider to provide a robust fix and explanation for the users.
I do not regard "plain"-text password store as an option we should offer.
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Re: keyring prompt

#27 Post by fehlix » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:08 am

clicktician wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:35 am
I'm using autologin on my tablet. I just updated from google-chrome-stable 69.0.3497.81-1 to 69.0.3497.92-1.

My keyring seems to be working as expected. If I blank the keyring password, Chrome no longer prompts me for it -- or attempts to set up a new keyring.

Exiting Chrome during a keyring prompt no longer generates a crash report the next time Chrome is started.

Chrome now syncs both with and without the keyring.

Magic.
Chromes internal encrption key is stored unsecured (without a protecting password) within that keyring.
Anything what chrome tries to encrypt to protect it for your sync (and it own "sync") etc, might be now also available for some smart java-scripts or addons including any passwords stored in the keyring. OK chrome might be add some further scrumbling protection layer, but without protecting it's master enryption key, your personal data and passwords "collected" by chome are fairly "open" minded using this approach.
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Re: keyring prompt

#28 Post by dolphin_oracle » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:15 am

fehlix wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:36 am
dolphin_oracle wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:21 am
I'm seeing some scuttlebut elsewhere on the web about this keyring thing with chrome/chromium.

What some folks are saying is that the prompt gets triggered if you are using autologin. I don't know about that, so I thought I would ask here if anyone is using autologin.
OK:
If you have disables autlogin, i.e. you need type in your password, the libpam-gnomekeyring,
will automatically unlock your default login-keyring ( if keyring-password matchs login password).

If you enable autologin, pam will not unlock the keyring, as no password was given.
Now Chromium checks the availablity of gnome-keying and tries to access
the locked keyring ( to fetch or if new to save its internal encryption keys)

Given that the long list of questions in different forums since years about the same issue,
we might consider to provide a robust fix and explanation for the users.
I do not regard "plain"-text password store as an option we should offer.
--fehlix
ah, so can we configure pam somehow to adjust this?
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Re: keyring prompt

#29 Post by fehlix » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:20 am

dolphin_oracle wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:15 am
ah, so can we configure pam somehow to adjust this?
Ok, I will redo the stepps and write down unsing fresh install or LiveMedia.
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Re: keyring prompt

#30 Post by Leo » Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:24 am

OK, I just got an update to Chrome, and no prompt, no profile error, passwords are back. I thought it had to be a Chrome problem.

BTW, I did some digging, and found the keyring password. I just hadn't been asked for it before...

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