I used Arch linux since early 2008. It used to have the most wonderful "unix like BSD style init" as it was called. Where you had an /etc/rc.conf that was quite a short file when you consider that you could configure most things that matter in your OS quite simply & easily (with initial reference to the ArchWiki of course).
Arch had a brilliant wiki (these days, I don't think it is as good as it used to be). All in all, I loved the old Arch, with its personalised custom setup; rolling release package management, & the wondrous pacman, to manage your packages.
Then the Arch "management" chose to move to systemd (I won't go into how so many of them - including the mods & trusted users - lowered themselves with personal attacks on anyone who disagreed with their stance re. systemd). I watched the arguments, I didn't get involved in any of them, but I could no longer use Arch due to my loss of respect for "most" not all, of those at the top.
I went back to BSD for a bit of time, during which I received an email from mips, who told me I should come over to Manjaro, as it was pretty new & had a small number of users; was Arch based & they had a really good attitude (noob friendly). So I went there in the latter part of 2011.
Manjaro was using systemd. I didn't like that, I don't like the ever growing systemd complexity. Simple is always better in my book. Then artoo (who's arguments, & the treatment that they & he had received by the Arch dudes, I was aware of), came over to Manjaro, where he was welcomed.
He has been, & still is, one of the main forces behind making the OpenRC init a viable proposition for Linux users outside of Gentoo (where it is still the native, with systemd as an option). Artoo put an enormous amount of work in (with others) to bring OpenRC up to the level that it is today.
I used Manjaro with the OpenRC init, until it was no longer supported, as artoo took it away & made the Artix distro (= Arch linux without systemd). He had done that with the help & inclusion of the other main (non-Gentoo) OpenRC people out there. Artoo moved from Manjaro as his project is less time consuming when systemd is not part of the distro - there was/is NO animosity between the two camps.
I didn't go straight to Artix when it first started up, I went over to Void (runit init) for a while. The init & package management were fine, though there are no where near enough packages available for me (I didn't want to make my own). I'm not sure where Void is up to at the mo' as last I heard the dev' disappeared?
Went to Artix, & it was great. Arch linux without systemd is fine by me. The Artix community/forum is fine. BUT, they don't use the same repo structure (naming) as Arch. This one problem, means that I can't use a wonderful piece of software that PIA VPN, supply to their users on "some other OS's" & Debian, Ubuntu, Mint, Arch (probably Red Hat & Fedora too), based distros. Which sucks! :( PIA are in the process of making their software all open source. So the day may come where I can make the tiny modifications needed.
So I went looking for systemd free distros. Devuan, Refracta - both OK, but not stable when I do what I do to them. MX 17, has been perfectly stable & I've made it nothing like it was meant to be by its creators. So here I sit. :)
If MX was running systemd, I would certainly not be here.
I could get into a rant as to why I don't like systemd, but I really couldn't be bothered, as it won't achieve anything.
So I'll leave it with the fact that I value freedom of choice, & since systemd has come along, there has been an ever diminishing amount of choices available to me, as a Linux user. Most point & click OS users wouldn't notice, & they most likely wouldn't care. I do.
If systemd had not been invented I'd most likely still be a happy Arch user (as would a number of other ex Arch users I know)...
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