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SOLVED - keyboard problem - new msi laptop

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SOLVED - keyboard problem - new msi laptop

#1 Post by gonzo01 » Wed May 30, 2018 1:05 am

Keyboard problem - new msi laptop

|/\ key gives <> in terminal

keyboard defaults to Generic 105-key (Intl) PC

hardinfo shows AT Translated Set 2 Keyboard
Last edited by gonzo01 on Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:13 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: keyboard problem - new msi laptop

#2 Post by chrispop99 » Wed May 30, 2018 3:17 am

Is this running live, or installed?

Have a look in System Settings>Keyboard>Layout tab to see what is set there.

(System Settings is available from the top of the Whisker menu; hover over the icons to see what they do.)

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Re: keyboard problem - new msi laptop

#3 Post by wulf » Wed May 30, 2018 4:45 am

Yes, I had that problem too. I think it was after updates came down around three days ago. I noticed my password wasn't working and that the keyboard setting had changed to international 105 PC generic keyboard. Only took a moment to go in to keyboard settings and change it back to 102 key in my case..

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Re: keyboard problem - new msi laptop

#4 Post by gonzo01 » Thu May 31, 2018 1:41 am

Counted keys - 102 incl keypad and function keys

set keyboard to Generic 102 key (Intl)pc
from Generic 105 key (Intl)PC ( default on install)

no difference re | \ keys

have also updated kernel to 4>13>0-1-amd64(x86-64)

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Re: keyboard problem - new msi laptop

#5 Post by gonzo01 » Thu May 31, 2018 10:25 pm

found this thread re msi notebook keyboard problems

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=295141.0

I only have problems with |\ key - \ though next to space key, though there is another key for |\ which works.

Not sure about F3 key - needed to access BIOS - have managed to access on initial setup - without activating Win10 and before wiping Win10 and installing MX.

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Re: keyboard problem - new msi laptop

#6 Post by gonzo01 » Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:13 am

Determined that F3 key at boot is for MSI Recovery options - which no longer exist as i reformatted HD and SSD for Linux. These options are not required by me.

Google eventually provided answers:-

F11 at boot gives Boot Options

Esc at boot accesses laptop's Bios

Apart from 1 incorrectly functioning key (|\) which has a duplicate that does function, all is now good

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Re: keyboard problem - new msi laptop

#7 Post by linwinux » Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:44 am

gonzo01 wrote:
Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:13 am
Determined that F3 key at boot is for MSI Recovery options - which no longer exist as i reformatted HD and SSD for Linux. These options are not required by me.

Google eventually provided answers:-

F11 at boot gives Boot Options

Esc at boot accesses laptop's Bios

Apart from 1 incorrectly functioning key (|\) which has a duplicate that does function, all is now good
Yeah, I think it would be helpful to stay away from F1 to F4 keys during the installation process. I had exactly the same problem with the F2 key on an old Toshiba laptop. That's the one that selects the language options during the installation of MX Linux since the languages don't appear by default ... but it was also the same key for accessing the bios options. The only solution to this was having language packs installed after the installation, but those do not work as well as the default language setting (F2) before the installation. It would make perfect sense to replace F1 - F4 functions during the installation process of MX, with something that wouldn't potentially conflict with bios keys. L+1, L+2, L+3, L+4 combos perhaps? (L for Linux and 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 for the F key) ...

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Re: SOLVED - keyboard problem - new msi laptop

#8 Post by chrispop99 » Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:16 am

Yeah, I think it would be helpful to stay away from F1 to F4 keys during the installation process. I had exactly the same problem with the F2 key on an old Toshiba laptop. That's the one that selects the language options during the installation of MX Linux since the languages don't appear by default ... but it was also the same key for accessing the bios options.
I've used the boot screen quite literally hundreds of times, with dozens of different hardware types, and never, ever encountered a problem whereby pressing a function key would have unintended consequences. I don''t see how that could happen, unless you pressed a function key before that screen appears. You are already past the point where BIOS or other system settings could be activated.

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Test machines:
32-bit non-PAE - Thinkpad T41, 1.6GHz Pentium M, 1GB RAM.
32-bit PAE - DELL Latitude D610, 1.73GHz Pentium M, 2GB RAM.
64-bit - Lenovo T61, 2GHz Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM
64-bit - Gigabyte Z77P-D3, Intel i3-3220, GeForce 8400 GS, 4GB PC3-12800.

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Re: SOLVED - keyboard problem - new msi laptop

#9 Post by linwinux » Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:27 am

I dunno what to tell you ... perhaps that old and slow laptop was still running bios options in the background while the MX boot screen appeared so quickly, that it was actually able to cause a momentary conflict between the two F2 functions? I have no idea, but that laptop is gone now, so I can't test more on it. That's what happened though.

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