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Messing with Kernel

#1 Post by vamsi » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:24 pm

i have seen just now runwithdolphin video on MX Linux. I got abig doubt there is package installer and in that there is kernel section and there are many kernels available what is the purporse of installing them will it make smooth or increase the performance and i am running MX on my old system

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System:    Host: cherubim Kernel: 4.13.0-1-686-pae i686 bits: 32 Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3
           Distro: MX-17_386 Horizon December 15, 2017
Machine:   Device: desktop Mobo: MICRO-STAR model: MS-7507 v: 1.0 serial: N/A
           BIOS: American Megatrends v: V3.1 date: 03/01/2008
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core2 Duo E4500 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB
           clock speeds: max: 2218 MHz 1: 2218 MHz 2: 2218 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller
           Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.2 ) drivers: intel (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1280x1024@75.02hz
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945G x86/MMX/SSE2 version: 2.1 Mesa 13.0.6
Audio:     Card Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Def. Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.13.0-1-686-pae
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8101/2/6E PCIE Fast/Gigabit Ethernet controller driver: r8169
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: 00:1d:92:a2:a1:ee
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 160.0GB (92.4% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD1600AABS size: 160.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 27G used: 18G (70%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.05GB used: 0.54GB (27%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda1
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 59.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 196 Uptime: 18:22 Memory: 594.6/995.7MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.53 
What happens if i install them will there be any increase in performance like that just want to mess with it

and by the way in the manual at page number 165 it is mentioned as MX-15 where as inxi -S output is MX-16 not a big error though just noticed it while digging into it

Thanks.. :happy: :happy:

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Re: Messing with Kernel

#2 Post by Jerry3904 » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:37 pm

Thanks for noticing the error. If you read the kernel section of the Manual, then you know already that you can always revert to what you had before.
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Re: Messing with Kernel

#3 Post by Stevo » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:42 pm

A newer kernel is no magic potion to speed up an older system, though 4.13 is pretty recent, you know. The main reason you'd need one is to support newer hardware or to fix bugs in the older kernel, and hope the newer kernel doesn't have any new problems, like Ubuntu 17.10 introduced for some machines.

A secondary reason is just "Shiny New Stuff" syndrome. You keep the original kernel as a backup boot entry.

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Re: Messing with Kernel

#4 Post by vamsi » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:45 pm

Stevo wrote:A newer kernel is no magic potion to speed up an older system, though 4.13 is pretty recent, you know. The main reason you'd need one is to support newer hardware or to fix bugs in the older kernel, and hope the newer kernel doesn't have any new problems, like Ubuntu 17.10 introduced for some machines.

A secondary reason is just "Shiny New Stuff" syndrome. You keep the original kernel as a backup boot entry.
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#5 Post by entropyfoe » Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:00 pm

A few days ago I accidentally booted into the wrong, (old ) kernel.

How can I change the order so the 4.10 option is defaulted to first? Edit with some grub editor?

This bears repeating to the OP, it may not be obvious where you get the new kernel.
After using the MX package installer to get the new kernel, (for me it was a downgrade from the very new 4.13 to a pretty new 4.10, for hardware compatibility reasons), you reboot, and at the grub, arrow down, choose the advanced options. There you select which kernel you want to boot. As Stevo wrote, you can easily revert, the original kernel is listed as an option.
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Re: Messing with Kernel

#6 Post by Stevo » Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:25 pm

You can use Grub Customizer to change the boot options. I have mine set to always boot to the last version booted, so I only have to manually select it in GRUB the first time.

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Re: Messing with Kernel

#7 Post by dr-kart » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:10 pm

what is the purporse
Vulnerability might be a reason to get another kernel as well.
For instance this one found in early December https://security-tracker.debian.org/tra ... -2017-8824
Currently available 4.14.9 (!Thanks Anti) kernel in stable repos may help hopefully ;)

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Re: Messing with Kernel

#8 Post by stsoh » Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:58 am

DW update kernel 4.14.10 yesterday.
whom dun like shining new stuff?
i'm one tat suffer from Shiny New Stuff Syndrome.
believe me or not, my old machine r flying.
luv mxlinx too much, i also create a i-luv-mxlinux avatar.
thank you mxlinux team.
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Re: Messing with Kernel

#9 Post by vamsi » Sat Dec 30, 2017 4:09 am

stsoh wrote: i also create a i-luv-mxlinux avatar.
thank you mxlinux team.
it was good avatar :happy:

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