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Gaming Laptop with Nividia optimus

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Re: Gaming Laptop with Nividia optimus

#11 Postby dirkme » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:44 am

Stevo wrote:Well, I built a 64-bit version of nvidia-prime, as well as an Indicator for it, but it doesn't seem to do anything on my Bumblebee Optimus laptop. Maybe Bumblebee interferes with it. Anyway the packages are attached: nvidia-prime.zip


So, if I install
nvidia-prime_0.8.4mx15+1_amd64.deb
that will install the Nvidia prop. drivers and prime?

Update: I sent you an email thru the forum and copied the content from my
ddm.log
in it.

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Re: Gaming Laptop with Nividia optimus

#12 Postby Stevo » Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:06 pm

No, I believe you will still have to install the proprietary drivers manually. I ported the package over from Ubuntu, so what did you do on that system?

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Re: Gaming Laptop with Nividia optimus

#13 Postby dirkme » Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:08 pm

Stevo wrote:No, I believe you will still have to install the proprietary drivers manually. I ported the package over from Ubuntu, so what did you do on that system?


I did use the Nvidia installer script from M16.

On Debian stretch 9, the Nvidia Card couldn't be installed as it doesn't get recognized.

I do a fresh install, and see if i can get the nvidia drivers installed (which I doubt very much)

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Re: Gaming Laptop with Nividia optimus

#14 Postby dirkme » Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:27 pm

Stevo wrote:No, I believe you will still have to install the proprietary drivers manually. I ported the package over from Ubuntu, so what did you do on that system?


Just ran a fresh install, ran

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Nvidia-detect
and got back No Nvidia GPU detected.

So, i didn't even try to install the Nvidia drivers from nvida.

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Re: Gaming Laptop with Nividia optimus

#15 Postby kmathern » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:10 pm

dirkme wrote:
Stevo wrote:No, I believe you will still have to install the proprietary drivers manually. I ported the package over from Ubuntu, so what did you do on that system?


Just ran a fresh install, ran

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Nvidia-detect
and got back No Nvidia GPU detected.

So, i didn't even try to install the Nvidia drivers from nvida.

nvidia-detect only looks for "0300" 'VGA compatible controller' pci devices with this command:
NV_DEVICES=$(lspci -mn | awk '{ gsub("\"",""); if ($2 == "0300" && ($3 == "10de" || $3 == "12d2")) { print $1 } }')


But your Optimus GPU is probably in the "0302" / '3D controller' category of devices.

This should detect it (also looks for "0301" and "0380" devices - https://pci-ids.ucw.cz/read/PD/03)

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lspci -mn | egrep '0300|0301|0302|0380' | grep 10de

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Re: Gaming Laptop with Nividia optimus

#16 Postby dirkme » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:55 pm

But your Optimus GPU is probably in the "0302" / '3D controller' category of devices.

This should detect it (also looks for "0301" and "0380" devices - https://pci-ids.ucw.cz/read/PD/03)

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lspci -mn | egrep '0300|0301|0302|0380' | grep 10de


That is what it shows.

$ lspci -mn | egrep '0300|0301|0302|0380' | grep 10de
01:00.0 "0302" "10de" "1c8d" -ra1 "1043" "1590"


However, i followed the steps from Debian Wiki for Jessie 8 and it pretended to install the driver and everything without an error.

I do not have nvidia-settings in the menu, nor do i know if the nvidia driver is running.

How would i proceed from here to get the Nvidia driver running.?

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Re: Gaming Laptop with Nividia optimus

#17 Postby kmathern » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:45 pm

The version of nvidia-driver in our main mx repo is '367.44-3mx150+3'

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$ apt-cache policy nvidia-driver
nvidia-driver:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 375.66-1mx15+1
  Version table:
     375.66-1mx15+1 0
        500 http://mxrepo.com/mx/testrepo/ mx15/test amd64 Packages
     367.44-3mx150+3 0
        500 http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ mx16/non-free amd64 Packages
     340.102-1 0
        500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie/non-free amd64 Packages

I think our ddm-mx nvidia installer installs the 367.44 version nvidia driver from our mx main repo if the testrepo isn't enabled, if you follow the Debian wiki instructions they probably install that version too. But if you look at the 367.44 supported devices list here: http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/367.44/README/supportedchips.html, you'll find that the 10de:1c8d device isn't supported.

If you temporarily enable the mx testrepo (with MX Repo Manager), the ddm-mx installer should install the 375.66 version nvidia driver instead of 367.44. The 375.66 driver supports the 10de:1c8d device (http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/375.66/README/supportedchips.html). Disable the testrepo afterward. If that works it might be reason enough to have Tim move the 375.66 version nvidia packages to the mx main repo.

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Re: Gaming Laptop with Nividia optimus

#18 Postby Stevo » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:30 pm

If you're typing in "Nvidia-detect", that also won't work, because the correct command is "nvidia-detect".

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Re: Gaming Laptop with Nividia optimus

#19 Postby dirkme » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:34 pm

OK, did everything as you wrote, the script then ran through quite OK until it wanted to restart bumblebeed, that was when the laptop froze.

After reboot, I got to starting network manager and that is where it freezes when you boot now.

But i had that all many times on Debian Stretch.

trust me when i say, bumblebee is not a solution, it is a time thief like Micro$oft windows.

I am done with bumblebee, Nvidia Prime is what works when a distro provides it.

But thank you very much for trying, would have loved to get MX16 running.

Maybe let me know, if or when there is a Nvidia Prime solution ;-)

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Re: Gaming Laptop with Nividia optimus

#20 Postby dirkme » Thu Jun 29, 2017 11:20 am

When I said I gave up, that is with bumblebee, I won't give up on MX as you guys are an extraordinary example of willing to help and how to deal with difficult situations.

You get 6 out of 5 Stars for that, compared to the Debian Forum where yo have these bully trolls which have the full support of the forum administrator.

The Debian Developer are doing a great job, but the administration side is ruining it fully. Shame on the Debian Forum Administrator.

However, back on track, I hope that there will be a Nvidia Prime solution available for MX16, until then, I might run it on my Intel graphics only.

Thanks again for your outstanding support MX Team.


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