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Intel NUC with Kaby Lake processor

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Intel NUC with Kaby Lake processor

#1 Postby linexer2016 » Sun May 07, 2017 10:27 pm

Considering purchasing one of the above which has a 7th gen i3 processor (Kaby Lake). Some reviewers imply that some linux distros don't play well with Kaby Lake. Should I be concerned about the prospects of installing MX16 to such a device?

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Re: Intel NUC with Kaby Lake processor

#2 Postby Stevo » Sun May 07, 2017 11:09 pm

I gather that Kaby Lake architecture is similar to Skylake, so the 64-bit MX 16 with its 4.7 kernel is what you want to use with it. The 32-bit with the stock Jessie kernel is not going to work very well with it, if at all, just like stock Debian Jessie (probably one of those distros they were talking about).

But it's probably also going to work even better with the newest kernel you can throw on the thing.

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Re: Intel NUC with Kaby Lake processor

#3 Postby linexer2016 » Mon May 08, 2017 12:22 am

I gather that Kaby Lake architecture is similar to Skylake, so the 64-bit MX 16 with its 4.7 kernel is what you want to use with it.

Thank you Stevo. Yes, I understand too that the KL is similar to SLake. It's just that I seem to recall seeing somewhere from some reviewer that MX can be problematic with newer platforms. Perhaps that was an ill-educated reviewer. So, it would seem that so long as I install the 64-bit MX16 with the latest kernel, then all should be aok. I will let you know how it goes ;)

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Re: Intel NUC with Kaby Lake processor

#4 Postby Jerry3904 » Mon May 08, 2017 4:40 am

That was speculation by quidsup, probably on target. We have marketed ourselves from the beginning as midweight, oriented neither to the very old nor the very new, and the latest hardware will always present a challenge. Fortunately, there are big distros out there that have the resources to cover that area.
Production: 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64, MX-15 RC1, AMD FX-4130 Quad-Core, GeForce GT 630/PCIe/SSE2, 8 GB, Kingston SSD 120 GB and WesternDigital 1TB
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Re: Intel NUC with Kaby Lake processor

#5 Postby eselma » Mon May 08, 2017 1:12 pm

Recently I had to upgrade my wife's PC, and the CPU is a 7th generation intel, according to inxi:

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Quad core Intel Core i5-7500 (-MCP-) cache: 6144 KB
flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 27264
clock speeds: min/max: 800/3700 MHz 1: 799 MHz 2: 799 MHz 3: 799 MHz 4: 799 MHz

And yes, these CPUs are tricky. But not with MX-16.
You see this is an i5 @ 3700 and DDR4 RAM, so even worse than an i3.
The hardware provider had to replace the MoBo originally sold (and adviced) by them, a Gigabyte H81M, with a newer one:

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ASUSTeK model: PRIME B250M-A v: Rev X.0x
UEFI [Legacy]: American Megatrends v: 0316
BIOS date: 11/08/2016

This one has been working without any issue during the last month with the MX-16 KDE. The problem was the BIOS and perhaps the MoBo itself (did not even get the initial beep with the former Mobo). The series kernel provided by 64 bit MX-16 (4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64) flies on that machine, no need at all to use a newer one, like the Liquorix ones in the repo.

Hope your system will fly, too
MX-16_x64 / 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 / KDE 4.14.2 / MSI A55-G41 / Quad AMD A10-6800K ; APU@ 4.1 GHz + Radeon HD990C / 1920x1080
Net: Ralink RT2561/RT61 (rt61pci); Realtek RTL8111/8168B (r8169) / HDD: 2xWDC_WD10EZRX (2x1 GB) / DVDRAM HL-DT-ST GH22NS50

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Re: Intel NUC with Kaby Lake processor

#6 Postby Stevo » Mon May 08, 2017 1:19 pm

Many of the improvements in recent kernels for Skylake+ platforms have been in power savings on laptops, so you might not see much difference between the 4.7 and 4.10 kernels on an desktop machine. If the 4.7 kernel runs fine for you, go with it.

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Re: Intel NUC with Kaby Lake processor

#7 Postby eselma » Mon May 08, 2017 3:23 pm

Stevo wrote:Many of the improvements in recent kernels for Skylake+ platforms have been in power savings on laptops, so you might not see much difference between the 4.7 and 4.10 kernels on an desktop machine. If the 4.7 kernel runs fine for you, go with it.

Indeed, I was astonished seeing how cool this i5 CPU was doing its job, even at higher loads. Myself, using an 'old' AMD 6800 Quad core could not believe this cores working at a mere 26-28º C. Ouch!
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Net: Ralink RT2561/RT61 (rt61pci); Realtek RTL8111/8168B (r8169) / HDD: 2xWDC_WD10EZRX (2x1 GB) / DVDRAM HL-DT-ST GH22NS50

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Re: Intel NUC with Kaby Lake processor

#8 Postby linexer2016 » Tue May 09, 2017 9:26 am

Hope your system will fly, too

Yes thanks Eselma. And thanks again to Stevo and Jerry I am quite optimistic that the new NUC will run fine. Have ordered it and expect it next week sometime. Once again, I will post the experience I have of putting MX16 64 bit on it.


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