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Upgrade question

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Post by colin_b » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:15 pm

I'm going to have my first system upgrade for many years tomorrow. I'm going to have an AMD 2400G CPU along with a new mobo & RAM, and I'll be using the graphics onboard the CPU.

I'm thinking about having a clean install of MX, but I'm wondering if the kernel problem will cause any issues.

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Re: Upgrade question

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Post by dolphin_oracle » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:35 pm

Unlikely on an installed system but the upgrade will likely be pulled tonight as the mirrors update.

It would cause problems on live usb. So don't update until the kernel no longer shows up as a update.
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Re: Upgrade question

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Post by JayM » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:42 pm

colin_b wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:15 pm
I'm going to have my first system upgrade for many years tomorrow. I'm going to have an AMD 2400G CPU along with a new mobo & RAM, and I'll be using the graphics onboard the CPU.

I'm thinking about having a clean install of MX, but I'm wondering if the kernel problem will cause any issues.
Make a personal snapshot (and back up your data that's in the directories that MX Snapshot excludes, just in case) and after your upgrade just reinstall from your snapshot. Unless of course you decide that you prefer a fresh, clean, new installation of MX to go with your fresh, clean, new hardware.

Re: the updates, if you see that it wants to update from kernel 4.19.01 to 4.19.05, "just say no" until whatever's wrong is fixed.
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Re: Upgrade question

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Post by Eadwine Rose » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:46 am

And as a sidenote: have fun with that upgrade :)
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Re: Upgrade question

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Post by asqwerth » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:38 am

Maybe as another precaution, also install liquorix 5.1.0-8.1 kernel from Test Repo.

Modules build fine on that, on my pc.

That way if anything goes wrong with one kernel, you have another one you can boot into.

On my MX installs, I have the 4.9 Debian stable kernel, the 4.19 that came with MX, and newer liquorix kernels, which are the ones I normally use.
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Re: Upgrade question

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Post by zorzi » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:51 am

asqwerth wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:38 am
Maybe as another precaution, also install liquorix 5.1.0-8.1 kernel from Test Repo.

Modules build fine on that, on my pc.

That way if anything goes wrong with one kernel, you have another one you can boot into.

On my MX installs, I have the 4.9 Debian stable kernel, the 4.19 that came with MX, and newer liquorix kernels, which are the ones I normally use.
I agree. In case of need, it's safer to keep 4.9 Debian kernel installed side to MX Kernel.
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Re: Upgrade question

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Post by jackdanielsesq » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:21 am

Amen .... :number1:
dolphin_oracle wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:35 pm
So don't update until the kernel no longer shows up as a update.

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Re: Upgrade question

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Post by colin_b » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:42 pm

Thanks for all of the replies :number1:

I decided to create a snapshot of my current setup with MX's snapshot tool, and I think I've stumbled across an oversight therein.

I decided to preserve accounts to save time when reinstalling. When I clicked start the numbers on the right hand side of the output showed 0/>2000000. I thought this was a big number, but I decided to let it get on with it. Three hours later it had only reached 25%, so I clicked cancel.

I was curious how things would go if I reset the accounts, so this I did and then clicked start. This time the numbers on the RHS were 0/~430000. The snapshot was completed in ~35 minutes.

After a bit of head scratching I think I might have figured out the problem. I've got Timeshift installed, and it keeps 4 snapshots. Is MX snapshot adding these snapshots to the snapshot it creates? The numbers suggest this is the case. If it is can MX snapshot skip any snapshots created by Timeshift?

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Re: Upgrade question

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Post by rs55 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:56 pm

asqwerth wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:38 am
Maybe as another precaution, also install liquorix 5.1.0-8.1 kernel from Test Repo.

Modules build fine on that, on my pc.

That way if anything goes wrong with one kernel, you have another one you can boot into.

On my MX installs, I have the 4.9 Debian stable kernel, the 4.19 that came with MX, and newer liquorix kernels, which are the ones I normally use.
Thats exactly what I do as well! The liquorix 5.1 .. works great. Seems to take a little less ram as well.

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Re: Upgrade question

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Post by BitJam » Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:11 pm

colin_b wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:42 pm
After a bit of head scratching I think I might have figured out the problem. I've got Timeshift installed, and it keeps 4 snapshots. Is MX snapshot adding these snapshots to the snapshot it creates? The numbers suggest this is the case. If it is can MX snapshot skip any snapshots created by Timeshift?
You should be able to do this easily by editing the exclusion file. I think there is an option to do that. If the timeshifts are all in one directory then you just need to add that directory to the list in the exclusion file.
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