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Making MX snappier

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Making MX snappier

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Post by BobbieAN » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:10 pm

I love MX very much but it seems slower than Windows 7 when using Firefox. Scrolling is laggy and Firefox is not as smooth as on Windows. Device that I used to install MX on is an old dual core machine with 4 gigs of ram. I used 64 bit ISO, would 32 bit version be a better match for my machine? Windows 7 that I use in dual boot is 32 bit version and it only see 3 gigs of ram, MX will use all 4 since it has PAE, right? Here is system info:


System:
Host: mx Kernel: 4.19.0-1-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 6.3.0
Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 Distro: MX-18.1_x64 Continuum Dec 20 2018
base: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch)
Machine:
Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: STRIKER II FORMULA v: 1.XX
serial: <filter> BIOS: Phoenix v: ASUS STRIKER II FORMULA Revision 2402
date: 03/19/2010
CPU:
Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core2 Duo E8500 bits: 64 type: MCP
arch: Penryn rev: 6 L2 cache: 6144 KiB
flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 12666
Speed: 2000 MHz min/max: 2000/2166 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2000 2: 2000
Graphics:
Device-1: AMD Caicos [Radeon HD 6450/7450/8450 / R5 230 OEM]
vendor: ASUSTeK driver: radeon v: kernel bus ID: 03:00.0
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: ati,radeon
unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: AMD CAICOS (DRM 2.50.0 / 4.19.0-1-amd64 LLVM 7.0.0)
v: 3.3 Mesa 18.2.6 direct render: Yes
Audio:
Device-1: NVIDIA MCP55 High Definition Audio vendor: ASUSTeK
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:0f.1
Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-1-amd64
Network:
Device-1: NVIDIA MCP55 Ethernet vendor: ASUSTeK type: network bridge
driver: forcedeth v: kernel port: eb00 bus ID: 00:12.0
IF: eth1 state: down mac: <filter>
Device-2: Realtek RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
driver: 8139too v: 0.9.28 port: bc00 bus ID: 05:07.0
IF: eth0 state: unknown speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 1.60 TiB used: 5.83 GiB (0.4%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD5000AAKS-00D2B0
size: 465.76 GiB
ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: Verbatim model: STORE N GO size: 7.21 GiB
ID-3: /dev/sdc type: USB vendor: Western Digital model: WD2500BEVT-22ZCT0
size: 232.89 GiB
ID-4: /dev/sdd type: USB vendor: Western Digital
model: WD My Passport 0730 size: 931.48 GiB
Partition:
ID-1: / size: 9.78 GiB used: 5.83 GiB (59.6%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda6
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 55.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: radeon temp: 56 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list
1: deb https://mirrors.netix.net/mx/MX-Packages/antix/stretch/ stretch main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
1: deb http://ftp.hu.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
1: deb http://ftp.hu.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free
2: deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
1: deb https://mirrors.netix.net/mx/MX-Packages/mx/repo/ stretch main non-free
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
Info:
Processes: 191 Uptime: 3m Memory: 3.85 GiB used: 700.8 MiB (17.8%)
Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 6.3.0 Shell: bash v: 4.4.12
inxi: 3.0.29
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Re: Making MX snappier

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Post by anticapitalista » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:19 pm

Is firefox the same version on both OS? Are you using any add-ons? (same for both?)
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Re: Making MX snappier

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Post by BobbieAN » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:29 pm

anticapitalista wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:19 pm
Is firefox the same version on both OS? Are you using any add-ons? (same for both?)
Latest Firefox 65.0.1 on both OS with only Ublock Origin addon installed.

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Re: Making MX snappier

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Post by manyroads » Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:20 pm

Firefox open tabs eat a bunch of memory (true of most browsers)... are the same number of tabs open in both the Win7 & MX environments?
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Re: Making MX snappier

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Post by BobbieAN » Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:57 pm

manyroads wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:20 pm
Firefox open tabs eat a bunch of memory (true of most browsers)... are the same number of tabs open in both the Win7 & MX environments?
RAM usage is not a problem, it's quite low. Firefox is just not as responsive in MX as in Windows with the same pages opened.

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Re: Making MX snappier

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Post by chrispop99 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:10 pm

BobbieAN wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:57 pm
Firefox is just not as responsive in MX as in Windows with the same pages opened.
That's really odd, and directly contradicts my own experiences.

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32-bit non-PAE - Thinkpad T41, 1.6GHz Pentium M, 1GB RAM.
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Re: Making MX snappier

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Post by BobbieAN » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:12 pm

I think it may have some connection to graphic card.

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Re: Making MX snappier

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Post by azrielle » Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:01 pm

BobbieAN wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:12 pm
I think it may have some connection to graphic card.
Possibly.
Though, as I've said many times before, ALL browsers cache their data onto the primary HDD, irrespective of how much RAM you may have. If your HDD is nearing its end of life (Start / Stop Cycles 50,000 for that particular WD model), I would consider replacing it with an SSD, which even with SATA-I, will CONSIDERABLY speed up browsing and increase the number of tabs that may be opened before bogging the system down to a crawl--on Windows AND Linux. Just my two cents. Also, I would try installing the LTS 4.09.153 kernel, as it's likely to better support older cpu/gpu configurations than the 4.19 kernel. Or alternatively, the antiX 4.19.18 kernel. Both of which are installable from the MX Package Installer (also affectionately known as 'MX-PI'). My 32bit iteration of MX18.1 installed onto an Atom n570 based netbook is quite snappy with only 2GB RAM, and a 128GB Adata SSD installed; idles as reported by htop at 206MB, with the aforementioned antiX 4.19.18 kernel installed. BTW, my cpu is CONSIDERABLY inferior to your Core 2 Duo, even though it's 3 years newer:
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core2-Duo ... -Atom-N570
Lenovo T430 i5/3320m 8GB MX17.1/Win7SP1 180GB SSD/128GB mSATA
Lenovo X230 i7/3520m 12GB MX17.1/Win7SP1 500GB SSD
Lenovo X131e i3/3227u 8GB MX17.1/AntiX 17.1 Fluxbox/Win7SP1 500GB SSD
Acer AOD257 Atom n570 2GB MX18.1-32bit/Win7SP1 128GB SSD

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Re: Making MX snappier

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Post by sunrat » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:05 pm

I have exactly the same CPU and 4GB RAM, using a 4.20 kernel (and 4.19 was fine too). Firefox works very nicely, no slowness at all. It's hard to diagnose something like this but looking at log files should give some clues if you're lucky.
I would highly recommend getting an SSD and installing your OS on that. It's the best upgrade I ever did which vastly improved responsiveness and slashed boot times. Smaller SSDs are dirt cheap these days. Something like 120GB would be plenty for using as OS drive.

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Re: Making MX snappier

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Post by BobbieAN » Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:19 am

sunrat wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:05 pm
I have exactly the same CPU and 4GB RAM, using a 4.20 kernel (and 4.19 was fine too). Firefox works very nicely, no slowness at all. It's hard to diagnose something like this but looking at log files should give some clues if you're lucky.
I would highly recommend getting an SSD and installing your OS on that. It's the best upgrade I ever did which vastly improved responsiveness and slashed boot times. Smaller SSDs are dirt cheap these days. Something like 120GB would be plenty for using as OS drive.
Tnx for advice, I'll definitely look into buying an SSD. FIrefox works good, scrolling is just not as smooth and CPU usage in task manager spikes a lot when scrolling. I know that pages today are heavy and two cores are struggling to render them so guess that's normal. Btw, tried MX live USB on my brothers Dell laptop and Firefox runs like a breeze (brother is so impressed with MX that he wants to replace his Xubuntu with MX).

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