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Slower boot times [solved]

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Slower boot times [solved]

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Post by Mauser » Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:27 pm

I noticed the boot times have increased by about 3 times since originally upgrading to MX-18. In 2018 MX-18 was booting up really fast but in 2019 it seems like it's taking about 3 times longer to boot up. The increased time seems to be during the MX splash progression screen. Once booted it up MX-18 runs great. Has anyone noticed the boot times have increased?

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System:
  Host: mauser Kernel: 4.19.0-1-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 6.3.0 
  Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 Distro: MX-18_x64 Continuum December 15  2017 
  base: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch) 
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: HP product: 510-p026 v: N/A serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: HP model: 81B4 v: 00 serial: <filter> UEFI [Legacy]: AMI v: F.13 
  date: 08/02/2016 
CPU:
  Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i5-6400T bits: 64 type: MCP 
  arch: Skylake-S rev: 3 L2 cache: 6144 KiB 
  flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 17664 
  Speed: 938 MHz min/max: 800/2800 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 916 2: 927 
  3: 899 4: 900 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 530 vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: i915 
  v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: intel 
  resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz, 1366x768~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 530 (Skylake GT2) 
  v: 4.5 Mesa 18.2.6 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Sunrise Point-H HD Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1f.3 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-1-amd64 
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet 
  vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: r8169 v: kernel port: e000 bus ID: 01:00.0 
  IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Intel Wireless 3165 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel port: e000 
  bus ID: 02:00.0 
  IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter> 
  IF-ID-1: tun0 state: unknown speed: 10 Mbps duplex: full mac: N/A 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 3.64 TiB used: 1.25 TiB (34.3%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: HGST (Hitachi) model: HUS726040ALE614 
  size: 3.64 TiB 
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 3.57 TiB used: 1.25 TiB (34.9%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 
  ID-2: swap-1 size: 12.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda1 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 28.0 C mobo: N/A 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 
  1: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/antix/stretch stretch main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
  1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
  1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free
  2: deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-earth-pro.list 
  1: deb http://dl.google.com/linux/earth/deb/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/home:hawkeye116477:waterfox.list 
  1: deb http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/hawkeye116477:/waterfox/xUbuntu_16.04/ /
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
  1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ stretch main non-free
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/waterfox.list 
  1: deb https://dl.bintray.com/hawkeye116477/waterfox-deb release main
Info:
  Processes: 208 Uptime: 45m Memory: 11.59 GiB used: 1.57 GiB (13.6%) 
  Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 6.3.0 Shell: bash v: 4.4.12 
  inxi: 3.0.29 
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Re: Slower boot times

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Post by chrispop99 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:23 pm

What kernel are you using?

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Test machines:
32-bit non-PAE - Thinkpad T41, 1.6GHz Pentium M, 1GB RAM.
32-bit PAE - DELL Latitude D610, 1.73GHz Pentium M, 2GB RAM.
64-bit - Lenovo T61, 2GHz Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM
64-bit - Gigabyte Z77P-D3, Intel i3-3220, GeForce 8400 GS, 4GB PC3-12800.

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Re: Slower boot times

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Post by chrispop99 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:24 pm

What kernel were you using before upgrading?

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Test machines:
32-bit non-PAE - Thinkpad T41, 1.6GHz Pentium M, 1GB RAM.
32-bit PAE - DELL Latitude D610, 1.73GHz Pentium M, 2GB RAM.
64-bit - Lenovo T61, 2GHz Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM
64-bit - Gigabyte Z77P-D3, Intel i3-3220, GeForce 8400 GS, 4GB PC3-12800.

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Re: Slower boot times

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Post by Mauser » Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:06 pm

chrispop99 wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:23 pm
What kernel are you using?

Chris
The 4.19 kernel which I posted in my system info.
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Re: Slower boot times

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Post by Mauser » Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:10 pm

chrispop99 wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:24 pm
What kernel were you using before upgrading?

Chris
Before the upgrade I was using the 4.9 kernel. After the upgrade to MX-18 I installed the 4.19 kernel which booted fast. I haven't changed the kernel since. It seems after the usual system updates booting up has slowed.
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Re: Slower boot times

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Post by chrispop99 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:22 pm

Try swapping back to the 4.9 kernel temporarily, and see if boot times are normal.

Chris
Test machines:
32-bit non-PAE - Thinkpad T41, 1.6GHz Pentium M, 1GB RAM.
32-bit PAE - DELL Latitude D610, 1.73GHz Pentium M, 2GB RAM.
64-bit - Lenovo T61, 2GHz Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM
64-bit - Gigabyte Z77P-D3, Intel i3-3220, GeForce 8400 GS, 4GB PC3-12800.

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Re: Slower boot times

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Post by dreamer » Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:40 pm

The increased time seems to be during the MX splash progression screen
I see two potential problems:

1. You are using Plymouth. Get rid of it in MX Boot Options and see what happens.
2. Plymouth makes it hard for you to see what happens during the prolonged boot. See problem 1.

Without having scientific evidence to back it up I put Plymouth in the same bag of broken Linux tech as Systemd and Pulseaudio. Sometimes your own experience is enough to make you stay away from or reduce your exposure to certain technologies.

I think MX team made it really easy to enable/disable Plymouth (haven't tried it myself) so you don't have to install/uninstall anything to try this.

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Re: Slower boot times

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Post by skidoo » Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:08 pm

mauser, toward speeding up the "boot time", check which services (daemons) are being autostarted & disable any that you're sure you don't need.

dreamer, I too am not a fan of plymouth. Under sysV init, regardless whether plymouth runs, a bootlog file should be available for review, pathed under /var/log
It might be enlightening to grep the logfile (or open in a text editor and search ) for instances of "warn" or "fail"

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Re: Slower boot times

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Post by Mauser » Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:29 pm

dreamer wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:40 pm
The increased time seems to be during the MX splash progression screen
I see two potential problems:

1. You are using Plymouth. Get rid of it in MX Boot Options and see what happens.
2. Plymouth makes it hard for you to see what happens during the prolonged boot. See problem 1.

Without having scientific evidence to back it up I put Plymouth in the same bag of broken Linux tech as Systemd and Pulseaudio. Sometimes your own experience is enough to make you stay away from or reduce your exposure to certain technologies.

I think MX team made it really easy to enable/disable Plymouth (haven't tried it myself) so you don't have to install/uninstall anything to try this.
I don't know if I am using Plymouth. There is nothing in MX Boot Options that says "Plymouth". Besides it booted 3 times before with the splash screen.
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Re: Slower boot times

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Post by Mauser » Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:35 pm

chrispop99 wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:22 pm
Try swapping back to the 4.9 kernel temporarily, and see if boot times are normal.

Chris
It booted faster with the 4.19 kernel than the 4.9 kernel before. I am going to leave it the way it's is unless there are some other ideas. I can live with it booting like Windows 98se.
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