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Which kernel should I use ?

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Re: Which kernel should I use ?

#31 Post by oops » Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:39 am

Hierax_ca wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:05 pm
FWIW, the MX Stable Repo now has the Debian LTS Kernel 4.9.0-8/4.9.110-3+debu5 (2018-09-30) for both 32- and 64-bit.

I also noticed that the Linux Kernel Archives (https://www.kernel.org/category/releases.html) have recently moved the 4.9 LTS EoL from 2019 to 2023 so it looks like there's a lot of life left in 4.9.x (vs. 4.14 which still expires in 2020).
Well seen. I fact, this topic is mostly interesting for the next LTS MX18/AntiX18 ... so the next défault MX18 kernel has to be a Long Time Support too.
$ inxi -S : System: Host:XEON Kernel: 4.16.0-xeon-01.efi x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 - Distro: MX-17.1_x64 Horizon


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Re: Which kernel should I use ?

#32 Post by Kulmbacher » Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:58 am

arky217 wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:42 pm
...So, I guess I'll just continue using the 4.15 kernel unless I run into some problem,
and if so, I'll give the 4.9 kernel a try.
...
or just try them.
kernels.png
I had MX 4.15, installed Debian 4.9, both are now there!
Then choose the one you want to try in BootScreen (Advanced Options).
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Re: Which kernel should I use ?

#33 Post by anticapitalista » Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:25 am

The antiX kernels shown in MXPI are out of date.

https://antixlinux.com/l1tf-foreshadow- ... available/
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Re: Which kernel should I use ?

#34 Post by dolphin_oracle » Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:33 am

anticapitalista wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:25 am
The antiX kernels shown in MXPI are out of date.

https://antixlinux.com/l1tf-foreshadow- ... available/
Thanks...will update
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Re: Which kernel should I use ?

#35 Post by zorzi » Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:11 am

arky217 wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:19 pm
I am the original poster and I have read through all these posts
and I am still confused as to what to do.

Do I keep the MX kernel 4.15.0-1 or do I download and use the 4.9
kernel ?

If the 4.9 kernel, which one, the Debian, the AntiX, or the LiquorX ?
We can consider that, since its end of life, 4.15 kernel appears now as a bad security choice. 4.9 kernel is the better choice IMO.

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Re: Which kernel should I use ?

#36 Post by arky217 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:07 am

zorzi wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:11 am
arky217 wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:19 pm
I am the original poster and I have read through all these posts
and I am still confused as to what to do.

Do I keep the MX kernel 4.15.0-1 or do I download and use the 4.9
kernel ?

If the 4.9 kernel, which one, the Debian, the AntiX, or the LiquorX ?
We can consider that, since its end of life, 4.15 kernel appears now as a bad security choice. 4.9 kernel is the better choice IMO.
Well, I tried kernel 4.9 and everything seems ok; printers work, etc.

Question: Is there anyway to make the 4.9 kernel the default one
instead of selecting it every time I boot up ?
( I mean anyway other than uninstalling the 4.15 kernel)

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Re: Which kernel should I use ?

#37 Post by dolphin_oracle » Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:09 am

MX-Boot-Options, choose your default boot entry.
http://www.youtube.com/runwiththedolphin
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Re: Which kernel should I use ?

#38 Post by namida12 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:40 pm

I am crashing on 4.17.4 & 4.18.7 often, am still using 4.15.14-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 for my Gen 1 Ryzen hardware.

Using Antix Package Installer for Kernel updates...
Kernel 4.18.7 will run fine overnight and longer if I do not use the system only seeding MX & Antix, but unfortunately system will crash when being used on internet, or office functions...
Kernel 4.15.14 will run for days...

Kernel 4.18.7 runs well on non Ryzen hardware...

JR

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$ inxi -F
System:    Host: antix3 Kernel: 4.15.14-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM 1.4.2 
           Distro: antiX-17.1_x64-full Heather Heyer 17 March 2018 
Machine:   Type: Laptop Mobo: MSI model: B350M GAMING PRO (MS-7A39) v: 1.0 serial: <root required> 
           UEFI [Legacy]: American Megatrends v: 2.30 date: 03/24/2017 
CPU:       Topology: Quad Core model: AMD Ryzen 5 1500X bits: 64 type: MT MCP L2 cache: 2048 KiB 
           Speed: 1676 MHz min/max: 1550/3500 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1375 2: 1375 3: 1375 4: 1375 5: 1424 
           6: 1433 7: 1411 8: 1432 
Graphics:  Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV670 [Radeon HD 3690/3850] driver: radeon v: kernel 
           Display: server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: ati,radeon unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa 
           resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV670 (DRM 2.50.0 / 4.15.14-antix.1-amd64-smp LLVM 3.9.1) 
           v: 3.3 Mesa 13.0.6 
Audio:     Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV670/680 HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 3690/3800 Series] 
           driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.15.14-antix.1-amd64-smp 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet driver: r8169 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: 18:d6:c7:06:f9:4a 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 232.89 GiB used: 132.62 GiB (56.9%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Samsung model: SSD 850 EVO 250GB size: 232.89 GiB 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 13.72 GiB used: 7.79 GiB (56.8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 
           ID-2: /home size: 205.70 GiB used: 124.83 GiB (60.7%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda3 
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 4.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 43.6 C mobo: N/A gpu: radeon temp: 84 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Info:      Processes: 239 Uptime: 21h 22m Memory: 15.68 GiB used: 2.45 GiB (15.6%) Shell: bash inxi: 3.0.24 

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Re: Which kernel should I use ?

#39 Post by arky217 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:53 pm

dolphin_oracle wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:09 am
MX-Boot-Options, choose your default boot entry.
I tried this and set it to 4.9, but it still boots to 4.15.

I tried it again and checked 'Enable saving last boot choice',
but it still boots to 4.9.

In fact, after I select 4.9 and check 'Enable saving last boot choice',
and close the MX boot options window and then immediately
open the MX boot options window again, my choice is not selected.
It keeps reverting to the first option 'MX 17 Horizon'.

Is that a bug, or am I overlooking something ?

Edit: Well, I got around this by using MX boot options to make
the grub menu 'flat' instead of 'tree' and then editing the grub
file directly and changing 'grub_default=saved' to 'grub_default=2'
which is the selection for kernel 4.9.
Then, of course, did a grub-update. Works now.

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Re: Which kernel should I use ?

#40 Post by asqwerth » Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:53 pm

arky217 wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:53 pm
dolphin_oracle wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:09 am
MX-Boot-Options, choose your default boot entry.
I tried this and set it to 4.9, but it still boots to 4.15.

I tried it again and checked 'Enable saving last boot choice',
but it still boots to 4.9.

In fact, after I select 4.9 and check 'Enable saving last boot choice',
and close the MX boot options window and then immediately
open the MX boot options window again, my choice is not selected.

It keeps reverting to the first option 'MX 17 Horizon'.

Is that a bug, or am I overlooking something ?

Edit: Well, I got around this by using MX boot options to make
the grub menu 'flat' instead of 'tree' and then editing the grub
file directly and changing 'grub_default=saved' to 'grub_default=2'
which is the selection for kernel 4.9.
Then, of course, did a grub-update. Works now.
You didn't click on the APPLY button to get the update-grub process to run.
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