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Re: Live persistant run slow

#11 Post by nikopoika » Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:31 pm

fehlix wrote:
Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:54 pm
Jerry3904 wrote:
Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:19 pm
FWIW, mine is a3.0
Will check it on my USB3's . Did it happen only when opening a browser (FF?) or generaly a slow/slaggish system ?
Hi, it happens with everything not only with the browser. Gets very slow, tomorrow I will check the processor use. Some month ago I made a live MX in this same pendrive and worked ok, that's why it's weird now ..
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Re: Live persistant run slow

#12 Post by nikopoika » Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:36 pm

Jerry3904 wrote:
Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:50 am
I also ran into that problem yesterday with the July snapshot running Live with persistence--CPU maxed out for long time, repeatedly, making me finally give up.
So, could it be a problem with July snapshot?
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Re: Live persistant run slow

#13 Post by Jerry3904 » Fri Aug 03, 2018 5:09 pm

Not sure, will put the August one on a couple of weeks and see if there's any difference. First time I've ever seen this behavior.
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Re: Live persistant run slow

#14 Post by nikopoika » Fri Aug 03, 2018 5:39 pm

fehlix wrote:
Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:17 pm
nikopoika wrote:
Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:47 am
... The stick Im using is this one: Toshiba THN-U202L0160E4 - Memoria USB 2.0 DE 16 GB.
Reading just reviews about your stick "Toshiba THN-U202L0160E4 - Memoria USB 2.0 DE 16 GB".
Seems to be a extrem slow speed device, even for already slow USB2 sticks.
Rather recommend to get a USB3 stick, which propably also is faster on an USB2 port.
Thanks for your advices! I will check the F4 option you mentioned. And yes, could be a good idea to get a 3.0 pendrive. But as I said, live persistence was working ok on this pendrive some month ago, that's why is a bit strange that behavior as Jerry said.
Thanks again for your interest!
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Re: Live persistant run slow

#15 Post by Sleepy » Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:19 pm

I too have experinced this with top grade chips, I found what may be an answer and posted it Jul 25 th, but being a terminal novice could not figure how to determine DEV and MOUNTPOINT so could never try solution. would appreciate howto:

How to find DEV
How to enter MOUNTPOINT
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Re: (MX17.1) Extremely low file copy speed to an external usb pen or disk (fat32 formatted)
#31 Post by Sleepy » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:04 pm

Still need help to figure out terminal commands need here
device mountpoint

Need help here -
I found this thread, thinking it might be pertinent, but I do not know how to use the terminal command to try, appreciate any pointers to this.
I
[ https://superuser.com/questions/970594/ ... e-in-linux

The problem, as it turns out, was the sync option used to mount the filesystem,
which appears to be performance-killer. Mounting it with flush option
instead of sync solved the problem: sudo mount -o async,flush <device> <mountpoint>

sudo mount -o async,flush <device> <mountpoint> ]tried solution
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Re: Live persistant run slow

#16 Post by nikopoika » Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:25 am

fehlix wrote:
Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:05 pm
Try :
F4->toram
F5->persist_all
which loads all linuxfs and rootfs into memory. Runs faster than installed from hd.
Hi Fhelix,
With toram and persist-all options it got better, could do some changes and even remaster, but still runs a bit slow...simple things like moving on whisker are not flow or smooth.
Checked CPU and was apparently normal not high %.
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Re: Live persistant run slow

#17 Post by fehlix » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:00 am

nikopoika wrote:
Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:25 am
With toram and persist-all options it got better, could do some changes and even remaster, but still runs a bit slow...simple things like moving on whisker are not flow or smooth.
Checked CPU and was apparently normal not high %.
Would running with
F4->toram
F5->persist_root
make you system faster?
If yes, it would tell us that the performance bottleneck is related
to having homefs mounted through your slow USB2 connection/device.
You might consider, trying out a faster USB3-stick, which in most cases is even faster on a USB2-port.
If you have more than one USB-port on your PC try also using another usb-port.
Further thought, as your PC has USB2-ports only,
I'd recomment to make a frugal install of the remastered LiveUSB onto the hd.
F5->frugal_persist.
To boot into frugal-installation on the hd with LiveUSB
and select for booting into frugal with
F5->frugal_persist.
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Re: Live persistant run slow

#18 Post by nikopoika » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:08 am

fehlix wrote:
Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:00 am
nikopoika wrote:
Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:25 am
With toram and persist-all options it got better, could do some changes and even remaster, but still runs a bit slow...simple things like moving on whisker are not flow or smooth.
Checked CPU and was apparently normal not high %.
Would running with
F4->toram
F5->persist_root
make you system faster?
If yes, it would tell us that the performance bottleneck is related
to having homefs mounted through your slow USB2 connection/device.
You might consider, trying out a faster USB3-stick, which in most cases is even faster on a USB2-port.
If you have more than one USB-port on your PC try also using another usb-port.
Further thought, as your PC has USB2-ports only,
I'd recomment to make a frugal install of the remastered LiveUSB onto the hd.
F5->frugal_persist.
To boot into frugal-installation on the hd with LiveUSB
and select for booting into frugal with
F5->frugal_persist.
Hi Felix,
I could try the options you suggested. F4->toram
F5->persist_root as you said make the sistem faster so the problem is related to having /home mounted.
It's weird though that this also happens to Jerry in a USB 3.0 as he commented. What do you think?

I tried my USB2.0 not in my laptop because I can't boot from USB, It's a mess with the efi32bit boot from apple. So I use the live system in my wife computer wich have a 3.0 ports and 6gb of RAM. So all the time this computer was the one I used.

Resuming: live system in a 2.0 pendrive plugged to a 3.0 USB port is working slow when /home is mounted at any option.
I concluded as you said that probably the best option is buy a 3.0 pendrive but what happens to Jerry make me think that maybe there is something more. 🤔

Thanks for your suggestions and good consells!
Hardware: MacBook 2.1 Intel core2duo 1,83 GHz, 3 GB ram, graphics Intel 950. Running MX Linux 17.1 final x64, kernel 4.15

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Re: Live persistant run slow

#19 Post by Richard » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:05 pm

Just for checking, I thought to roll back to an earlier mx-live-usb-maker
to try putting the MX-17.1_July_x64.iso, but there is no earlier candidate available in the repos.
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