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Re: Curious Issue sysvinit systemd boot

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:02 pm
by timkb4cq
That could be a bad SATA cable, but I assume you've tried another when you switched drives.
It looks to me like a failing PSU, or failing regulators on the motherboard.

Re: Curious Issue sysvinit systemd boot

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:06 pm
by Richard
That is sad.
My condolences.
Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

Re: Curious Issue sysvinit systemd boot

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:49 pm
by richb
timkb4cq wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:02 pm
That could be a bad SATA cable, but I assume you've tried another when you switched drives.
It looks to me like a failing PSU, or failing regulators on the motherboard.

All three SSD's are permanently installed with their own cables. Looks like I go searching for a new motherboard, maybe start with the PSU.

Re: Curious Issue sysvinit systemd boot

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:14 pm
by timkb4cq
PSU is more likely. Failing regulators, unless they have just let out the magic smoke, would likely have caused issues with high CPU loads or random usb port problems before getting to this point.

Re: Curious Issue sysvinit systemd boot

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:21 pm
by handy
@rickb, I'd turn off acpi just to see what happens.

My notebook has a bug in the BIOS. It has taken me sooooo long to realise that this is the case. It has always needed a second (& always successful) attempt to start win7. OpenBSD & Void had no problem, but the 3 Debian based (systemd free) distros do. They too need to be rebooted due to a very early kernel panic (mentions acpi too from memory - not that I think you have the same problem as mine rickb).

Anyway, on doing a little research, I found that it is known that this BIOS has a bug - all this time I had been just putting it down to the xxxxxxx OS's that MS builds (& I consider win7 to be the best of them). I have had to reinstall win7 once, fairly recently, & the behavior (bug) remained - I was hoping that I'd get rid of corruption or whatever had been causing the problem, no such luck. This was of course prior to my realising it was a BIOS bug.

I lived with this bug for years, (I just treat it the same as arthritis...) so I'll see how long it takes me to get my act together & flash the BIOS with an upgrade...

Re: Curious Issue sysvinit systemd boot

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:17 am
by HessenZone
Looks like potentially a hard disk related error to me ...
https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2272486

More useful info. from Fedora forum ...
https://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthre ... re-problem

Last but certainly not least ...
https://superuser.com/questions/1166750 ... d-shutdown

Re: Curious Issue sysvinit systemd boot

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:33 am
by richb
I have noticed a clicking every second or so as the error block repeats. One would think HD but I have SSD's.
Doubt that all 3 SSD's went bad at the same time.

EDIT: Just recalled there is an HD in a caddy that I do not boot from. and rarely use. I removed it and the problem is resolved. Thanks for all the comments.

Re: Curious Issue sysvinit systemd boot

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:10 am
by oops
richb wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:33 am
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EDIT: Just recalled there is an HD in a caddy that I do not boot from. and rarely use. I removed it and the problem is resolved. Thanks for all the comments.
Unbelievable .. So it was a Darwin issue, ssds do not like to share the same space with hdds ;)

Re: Curious Issue sysvinit systemd boot

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:20 am
by richb
oops wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:10 am
richb wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:33 am
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EDIT: Just recalled there is an HD in a caddy that I do not boot from. and rarely use. I removed it and the problem is resolved. Thanks for all the comments.
Unbelievable .. So it was a Darwin issue, ssds do not like to share the same space with hdds ;)
Evolution. They coexisted for three years and then came to blows. Actually I just think the HD failed. Not sure why I rarely used it. and never boot from it .But I suppose being in the computer it still wound up on boot.

Re: Curious Issue sysvinit systemd boot [SOLVED]

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:20 am
by timkb4cq
The system can't tell whether that drive is a boot drive or not until it can iterate it. Usually that won't make a boot fail, just delay it for a minute or two, but drive failures can have odd symptoms.