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MX on the Laptop

#1 Post by MarkG » Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:27 pm

I am curious as to why suddenly all audio ceased working after an update, several other programs ceased working, including WINE and despite removing it, installing it, and same for other programs that have ceased working, I am still at a loss as to why a perfectly working system could be so easily crippled after an update that was in the name of security as stated in the downloads updater widget that you have in the launch bar.

Last update saw Slic3r stop working, despite reinstalling it, it won't run. Cura is a bit on and off and Repetier Host was also acting up and KediKAD.

Despite updating, OpenShot video editor keeps on crashing for no apparent reason, it worked fine before I started updating.

I also has some weird behaviour from USB and had one SD Card wrecked.

All these programs functioned fine prior to the updates that followed the update the crippled the laptop.

There does not appear to be any rollback feature to undo an update.

I read a thread t hat talks about rolling back A driver, but nothing I can see about rolling back updates from MX updates. What I want to do is rollback to the point the machine was in before the whole install went sideways.

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Re: MX on the Laptop

#2 Post by fehlix » Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:38 pm

It looks like a typical scenario having packages installed from incompatibel repositories which stopped working after an update. In any case always a good idea to have a good backup strategie, timeshift springs to mind. Or just a snapshot.

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Re: MX on the Laptop

#3 Post by Richard » Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:09 pm

@MarkG, I was wondering while I read the original post, which distro you were running.
Felix answered my question with his observation.

MX has a utility, MX Snapshot for taking a snapshot of your running system
and creating an ISO that will allow reinstalling back to that point. If you are running
MX Linux, then while mixing repos, you could take a snapshot before ANY update.

With mixed repos, you never know when something will cause a serious problem.
Unfortunately, if you have never made a snapshot, I would suggest the June snapshot
from here: http://mxrepo.com/snapshots/?C=M;O=D
Then add back in all your modifications and when stable, take a snapshot.
MX17.1____: T430-2017, 8 GB RAM, 4.15.0-1-amd64, 119 SSD
antiX-/MX-171: AA1/Eee, 1 GB RAM, 4.15.0-1-686-pae, 149 HDD
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Re: MX on the Laptop

#4 Post by Stevo » Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:50 pm

"inxi -r" will display your repositories so we can see if there are any problematic ones. From the programs you mention, I suspects some PPAs may be involved. The MX updater will also show a history of updates so you can find the one you think may be to blame...it may not even be from MX or Debian if you have third-party repos.

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Re: MX on the Laptop

#5 Post by MarkG » Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:14 am

fehlix wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:38 pm
It looks like a typical scenario having packages installed from incompatibel repositories which stopped working after an update. In any case always a good idea to have a good backup strategie, timeshift springs to mind. Or just a snapshot.
So :

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$ sudo apt-get install <program_name>
such as

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$ sudo apt-get install printrun
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$ sudo apt-get install slic3r
will install from incompatible repositories ??? I have only installed what is on offer through those downloads and installed via a terminal.

Any packages that are deemed incompatible are packages built for Debian releases of which MX is...

However, updates are not forgiven for the problems of..

Missing all audio.
Network problems arising from connectivity issues with hardware thereafter

and other such problems that came about after a bunch of updates in a list all prefixed with mx- something and thats when problems arose.

Less than a week later, an update and then audio was working again.

Wine however is not working despite removing it and installing it via the previously mentioned method.

There are some other issues that have been noted, however, I guess that these issues will be rectified at some point.

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Re: MX on the Laptop

#6 Post by fehlix » Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:36 am

Please read this first: Guide - How to ask for help
Thanks

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Re: MX on the Laptop

#7 Post by Jerry3904 » Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:40 am

Please provide the information that Stevo asked for:

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inxi -r
Production: 4.15.0-1-amd64, MX-17.1, AMD FX-4130 Quad-Core, GeForce GT 630/PCIe/SSE2, 8 GB, Kingston SSD 120 GB and WesternDigital 1TB
Testing: AAO 722: 4.15.0-1-386. MX-17.1, AMD C-60 APU, 4 GB

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Re: MX on the Laptop

#8 Post by MarkG » Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:51 am

Richard wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:09 pm
@MarkG, I was wondering while I read the original post, which distro you were running.
Felix answered my question with his observation.

MX has a utility, MX Snapshot for taking a snapshot of your running system
and creating an ISO that will allow reinstalling back to that point. If you are running
MX Linux, then while mixing repos, you could take a snapshot before ANY update.

With mixed repos, you never know when something will cause a serious problem.
Unfortunately, if you have never made a snapshot, I would suggest the June snapshot
from here: http://mxrepo.com/snapshots/?C=M;O=D
Then add back in all your modifications and when stable, take a snapshot.
That is great to know.

However... had I known then I would have likely taken the option to do such a thing.

Can the future update of MX include a pre word and offer the option to jump in to making a snapshot prior to updates, updates could download in background while the snap shot does its bit on what was where and when.

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Re: MX on the Laptop

#9 Post by MarkG » Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:54 am

Jerry3904 wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:40 am
Please provide the information that Stevo asked for:

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inxi -r

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$ inxi -r
Repos:     Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           1: deb http://www.bchemnet.com/suldr/ debian extra
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 
           1: deb http://nl.mxrepo.com/antix/stretch/ stretch main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list 
           1: deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://nl.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ stretch main non-free
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 

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Re: MX on the Laptop

#10 Post by MarkG » Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:05 am

fehlix wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:36 am
Please read this first: Guide - How to ask for help
Thanks
Thanks.

However I prefer the hands on method of learning.

Ask me to read a book, I can't get past the first paragraph.

Ask me to read code, I will be able to read all night long.

So asking me to read something is like asking a vegetarian to eat a beef burger or an epileptic to look at a strobe light.

Had things not got broken, the reader doodad would work and I would be able to listen to the thing whilst writing code.

In all seriousness. The medication I am on (for pain management) as I have a deformed lumbar in addition to a T4/T5 injury, C2/C3 injury and by all consultants who have seen me, wonder why I am not in a wheel chair. I know I'm a basket case at times but sometimes its easier to point out whats wrong, what happened and so on that learn a regimented method of asking a question that only requires some level of assistance like, what repositories do you use, to which if I misread that, you would have had my answer, the supplier and so on.

I do what I can like learning the various ways to make an executable or one or more of the several ways in which you can install programs on linux.

So when normal services return, after another update that fixes what got broken to start with, I will listen to the link you gave.

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