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How to refuse new package?

#1 Post by Vincent17 » Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:26 pm

Sometimes a new package that I don't want appears in updates. Is there a way to blacklist a new package so MX Updater will not offer it? Auto-update in MX Updater preferences "will not add new...packages", but I like to use the View and Upgrade window.

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Re: How to refuse new package?

#2 Post by rich » Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:28 pm

See manual section 5.3.2 Apt Pinning for instructions to keep application at certain version
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Re: How to refuse new package?

#3 Post by rich » Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:41 pm

Assuming the new package is a new version of a currently installed package?
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Re: How to refuse new package?

#4 Post by Vincent17 » Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:07 pm

Thanks, rich. I meant a new package, not previously installed, like lightning.

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Re: How to refuse new package?

#5 Post by rich » Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:15 pm

Oh sure, use basic upgrade then instead of full upgrade
https://mxlinux.org/wiki/help-files/hel ... t-notifier
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Re: How to refuse new package?

#6 Post by Stevo » Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:20 pm

Hmmm...we made Lightning a dependency for the new Thunderbird because it already came built into the Mozilla-built Thunderbird we were previously packaging. So you're really not getting anything extra; we figured it would be better to do that to maintain the status quo, and to prevent questions asking "What happened to my Lightning? I didn't ask for it to be removed!"

Since the new Thunderbird requires it, you'll have to pin that package.
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Re: How to refuse new package?

#7 Post by fehlix » Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:28 pm

Vincent17 wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:07 pm
.. I meant a new package, not previously installed, like lightning.
Just disable lightning-extension within Thunderbird, if you don't use the calendar functionality.
As Stevo just mentioned, it was embedded part of previously installed Thunderbird and will not take any more resources than before.
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Re: How to refuse new package?

#8 Post by Vincent17 » Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:21 am

Thanks for the information. I have accepted lightning and disabled the extension, as suggested.
Regarding my original question, I infer that the answer is: No, there are ways to avoid new packages but nothing analogous to pinning.

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Re: How to refuse new package?

#9 Post by rich » Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:34 am

This article may be of interest:
https://www.tecmint.com/disable-lock-bl ... ebian-apt/
I haven't tried these methods, but apt is pretty versitile.
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Re: How to refuse new package?

#10 Post by fehlix » Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:42 am

rich wrote:
Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:34 am
This article may be of interest:
https://www.tecmint.com/disable-lock-bl ... ebian-apt/
I haven't tried these methods, but apt is pretty versitile.
That's about "hold"ing a package and package version.
Which is discribed within the user manual section "5.3.2 Upgrading and downgrading"
under "pinning".
Pinning or "hold a package" is certainly not recommended
for mail-clients or web-browsers as one would not get any security fixes.
Pinning shall be regarded as a temp solution to keep a non-security crititcal
application runninng until a better working upgraded package is provided.
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