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[SOLVED] Basic Newbie Question About Creating A Persistence USB

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Re: Basic Newbie Question About Creating A Persistence USB

#11 Post by Adrian » Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:23 pm

What a fool; I didn't realize that you could select NONE of the options (not dd, not any of the clone options). I guess I was thinking of it like radio buttons?
No problem, I thought it might have been something like that, we try to add many options to our tools but that sometimes makes things more complicated from the point of the user, it's also hard sometime to see the tools GUI through the eyes of a new user, so this is helpful to us to understand how people see and interpret the interface...

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Re: Basic Newbie Question About Creating A Persistence USB

#12 Post by abbreviatedman » Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:36 pm

Yeah, I guess it wasn't immediately obvious to me that choosing no particular option would still create a live USB. But that may or may not be a common confusion; after all, they're check-boxes, not radio buttons, and the "Next" button is clearly clickable.

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Re: Basic Newbie Question About Creating A Persistence USB

#13 Post by Antediluvian » Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:46 am

Adrian wrote:
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... it's also hard sometime to see the tools GUI through the eyes of a new user, so this is helpful to us to understand how people see and interpret the interface...
Let me provide feedback as another new user. I had a similar but not identical experience as the OP, abbreviatedman.

When I first used the MX Live USB Maker I make a persistent Live USB in a circuitous manner. First I made a Live USB via the "Copy image to USB (dd)" option. I then booted that non-persistent Live USB and made a persistent Live USB on a second stick using the "Clone running live system".

Why would I do that? Well, both the MX User Manual and the video refer to an older version of the MX Live USB Maker where Options shows "1: Normal mode - full featured live USB".

In the current MX Live USB Maker that option doesn't appear and it isn't obvious (or at least wasn't to me) that by selecting no option you would get the same thing as Option 1 in the older version.
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Re: [SOLVED] Basic Newbie Question About Creating A Persistence USB

#14 Post by Adrian » Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:46 am

I could add a checkbox selected by default "Normal mode - full-featured ISO" that would make things clearer... see in my mind things were clear, press Next, it creates the flashdrive, need extra options: click the checkboxes that you need.

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Re: [SOLVED] Basic Newbie Question About Creating A Persistence USB

#15 Post by asqwerth » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:04 am

Adrian wrote:
Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:46 am
I could add a checkbox selected by default "Normal mode - full-featured ISO" that would make things clearer... see in my mind things were clear, press Next, it creates the flashdrive, need extra options: click the checkboxes that you need.
Or, just add the following words next to "Options":
(to make a Normal-mode Full Featured Live USB, leave options unticked)
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Re: [SOLVED] Basic Newbie Question About Creating A Persistence USB

#16 Post by Adrian » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:27 am

What about something like this, is it clearer?


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Re: [SOLVED] Basic Newbie Question About Creating A Persistence USB

#17 Post by anticapitalista » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:29 am

Does that change allow for normal mode and encryption?
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Re: [SOLVED] Basic Newbie Question About Creating A Persistence USB

#18 Post by Adrian » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:33 am

anticapitalista wrote:
Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:29 am
Does that change allow for normal mode and encryption?
That's only design, it doesn't change functionality and other options, you can still select encryption when you have that "normal mode" selected.

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Re: [SOLVED] Basic Newbie Question About Creating A Persistence USB

#19 Post by asqwerth » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:40 am

Adrian wrote:
Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:33 am
anticapitalista wrote:
Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:29 am
Does that change allow for normal mode and encryption?
That's only design, it doesn't change functionality and other options, you can still select encryption when you have that "normal mode" selected.
I'm not sure it's obvious that you can select more than 1 option.
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Re: [SOLVED] Basic Newbie Question About Creating A Persistence USB

#20 Post by Adrian » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:44 am

Those are checkboxes they are active, the 2 on the right are radio-boxes that can be selected one at a time.
Ideally I would have a different groupbox named "Modes" with the 2 modes of operation, the Options would be in a different group box, but that's not an easy change, it kind of ruins the design of the app (it's doable, but Qt Designer is a bit of a pain sometimes, you move a box and it ruins the layout of everything around...)

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