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[Solved] Screenlets in MX-17?

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[Solved] Screenlets in MX-17?

#1 Post by dreamer » Sat May 26, 2018 7:32 pm

Does someone know if it is possible to get Screenlets working in MX-17? The Screenlets project is more or less dead, but it was fixed for Ubuntu 16.04 (and according to comments continues to work in Ubuntu 17.04).

http://www.webupd8.org/2017/02/screenle ... d-for.html

I installed the screenlets package (from main repo) in MX-17. It installed fine, but it wouldn’t launch.
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Re: Screenlets in MX-17?

#2 Post by rich » Mon May 28, 2018 12:10 am

Make sure you have compositing enabled and install python-gnomekeyring
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Re: Screenlets in MX-17?

#3 Post by dreamer » Mon May 28, 2018 1:58 pm

rich wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 12:10 am
Make sure you have compositing enabled and install python-gnomekeyring
Many thanks. :number1: I haven't had this working since I started using Linux many years ago. MX-17 is getting better and better...
python-gnomekeyring was required for Screenlets to start, but was marked as recommended only. I guess I have Synaptic set to install dependencies only.

Off topic: Why do I use Synaptic? Because it gives me a nice history of system changes. Is there a way to see apt history from the terminal? I was disappointed that terminal changes don't show up in Synaptic history so I guess there is no such thing as apt history, only Synaptic history.

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Re: Screenlets in MX-17?

#4 Post by rich » Mon May 28, 2018 2:12 pm

Of course, glad to help! Thanks for bringing it up, screenlets is a cool little program.
dreamer wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 1:58 pm
python-gnomekeyring was required for Screenlets to start, but was marked as recommended only. I guess I have Synaptic set to install dependencies only.

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$ cat /etc/apt/apt.conf
// Recommends are as of now still abused in many packages
APT::Install-Recommends "0";
APT::Install-Suggests "0";
Installing recommended packages is disabled by default in MX.
dreamer wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 1:58 pm
Off topic: Why do I use Synaptic? Because it gives me a nice history of system changes. Is there a way to see apt history from the terminal? I was disappointed that terminal changes don't show up in Synaptic history so I guess there is no such thing as apt history, only Synaptic history.

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cat /var/log/apt/history.log
may be interesting
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Re: Screenlets in MX-17?

#5 Post by richb » Mon May 28, 2018 2:17 pm

I believe MX Updater captures all apt upgrades. Right click on the MX Updater icon in the panel notification area and click on History.
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Re: Screenlets in MX-17?

#6 Post by dreamer » Mon May 28, 2018 2:53 pm

rich wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 2:12 pm
Of course, glad to help! Thanks for bringing it up, screenlets is a cool little program.

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$ cat /etc/apt/apt.conf
// Recommends are as of now still abused in many packages
APT::Install-Recommends "0";
APT::Install-Suggests "0";
Installing recommended packages is disabled by default in MX.
That's a wise decision. python-gnomekeyring should really be a dependency.
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Mon May 28, 2018 2:12 pm

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cat /var/log/apt/history.log
may be interesting
This is useful. When I looked at the file only history from this month is present. In Synaptic I have history from the beginning of the year. I now see that each month the log file is compressed to a .gz package. That's quite annoying behaviour; makes it really difficult to quickly scroll through the list of changes. Is it possible to view these files without extracting them first?

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Re: Screenlets in MX-17?

#7 Post by dolphin_oracle » Mon May 28, 2018 3:00 pm

dreamer wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 2:53 pm
rich wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 2:12 pm
Of course, glad to help! Thanks for bringing it up, screenlets is a cool little program.

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$ cat /etc/apt/apt.conf
// Recommends are as of now still abused in many packages
APT::Install-Recommends "0";
APT::Install-Suggests "0";
Installing recommended packages is disabled by default in MX.
That's a wise decision. python-gnomekeyring should really be a dependency.
rich wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 2:12 pm

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cat /var/log/apt/history.log
may be interesting
This is useful. When I looked at the file only history from this month is present. In Synaptic I have history from the beginning of the year. I now see that each month the log file is compressed to a .gz package. That's quite annoying behaviour; makes it really difficult to quickly scroll through the list of changes. Is it possible to view these files without extracting them first?
the history function in mx-updater will pull anything done via apt, and mine goes back to my initial install of MX 17.1 back in march.
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Re: Screenlets in MX-17?

#8 Post by dreamer » Mon May 28, 2018 3:54 pm

MX Updater History is good, but the format is better in /var/log/apt/history.log and MX Updater didn't display my January changes... Disclaimer: on one installation of MX (probably not this one) I uninstalled MX Updater, because I didn't like the dependency on unattended-upgrades. That could explain the absence of January changes, but I don't think I ever uninstalled MX Updater on this machine (there is no entry in Synaptic). I have always used Synaptic, never "Updater" apps as long as I have used Linux. My Synaptic is set to Smart Upgrade so should be the same as "Full upgrade".

In the best of worlds I would like an app that pulls data from /var/log/apt/ (why do they compress history files :frown: ). It would be so easy if they didn't... As of now I think Synaptic is the best (I'm not really using the terminal much anyway).

Maybe I'm missing something... I can't help but wonder: How does the average Debian sysadmin access apt history? :confused:

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Re: Screenlets in MX-17?

#9 Post by richb » Mon May 28, 2018 3:56 pm

My history preference is MX Updater. All the information I need is there. The January updates are there as well.

EDIT:This thread has gone off topic. A discussion on apt history should be started in another thread if so desired.
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Re: Screenlets in MX-17?

#10 Post by Stevo » Tue May 29, 2018 6:59 pm

It's simple enough to rebuild the Stretch screenlets package for our own repo and change the recommended packages to hard depends...doing that now.

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