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Richard
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Re: Snapshots

#11 Post by Richard » Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:40 pm

I tried the new Clonezilla the other day and it gave me the option to only use 2 of 4 cores.
With that choice, temps only approached but never reached the temp levels obtained with snapshot.

I usually place an external fan and clear access to the air intake on the laptop when doing snapshots.
Temps are a bit lower since I activated pstate for the intel.
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Re: Snapshots

#12 Post by Adrian » Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:45 pm

I think you could add in /etc/mx-snapshot.conf this option

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-processors 2
(use 2 or 1 for the number of cores) add it right after the compression so it would look like:

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mksq_opt=-comp xz -processors 2

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Re: Snapshots

#13 Post by turtlebay777 » Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:28 pm

technwarnersprings wrote: I don't understand why Mint, Manjaro and Ubuntu are rated so highly on DistroWatch.
Because Debian isn't really geared towards novice Linux users and apart from this forum, most Debian forums are populated by experienced geeks who are reluctant to answer basic questions from newbies. Mint and Ubuntu forums are usually more forgiving and are the two main distros chosen by those wishing to migrate from Windows.

Also the 'rating' on Distrowatch is the number of downloads per distro per month, and Debian based distros aren't so popular with novices.

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Re: Snapshots

#14 Post by fehlix » Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:41 pm

Adrian wrote:I think you could add in /etc/mx-snapshot.conf this option

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-processors 2
(use 2 or 1 for the number of cores) add it right after the compression so it would look like:

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mksq_opt=-comp xz -processors 2
Thats the correct mksquashfs-options (see man mksquashfs).
For low spec computers I'd rather reduce number of proccessore to 1
and even more important reduce comp-algo to gz or even better lzo.

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mksq_opt=-comp lzo -processors 1
OK the snapshot will take longer and become larger but at least
the cpu's will potentially not overheating and blow up.
I've done it that way a couple of times as I felt the fan became to noisy with the
default settings.
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Re: Snapshots

#15 Post by Richard » Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:06 pm

Thanks.
I've put the parameter in /etc/mx-snapshot.conf
Will advise after the next snapshot.
NOTE: Yes, a definite improvement.
. . . . Temps averaged about 8 degrees Centigrade lower.


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Re: Snapshots

#16 Post by Stevo » Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:09 pm

turtlebay777 wrote:
technwarnersprings wrote: I don't understand why Mint, Manjaro and Ubuntu are rated so highly on DistroWatch.
Because Debian isn't really geared towards novice Linux users and apart from this forum, most Debian forums are populated by experienced geeks who are reluctant to answer basic questions from newbies. Mint and Ubuntu forums are usually more forgiving and are the two main distros chosen by those wishing to migrate from Windows.

Also the 'rating' on Distrowatch is the number of downloads per distro per month, and Debian based distros aren't so popular with novices.
The popularity rank on DW is just the number of click-throughs for each distro link, which has a lot of problems. We're doing much better on actual user ratings there :happy: : https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=ranking The ones up with us have much smaller numbers of reviews, which means they can be distorted by a small sample size. Once you get hundreds of reviews, you tend to fall back down to a norm...except MX ATM.

Xubuntu only has 70 reviews compared to MX's 254? You'd think it would have more with the way it gets recommended over on Reddit Linux forums.
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Re: Snapshots

#17 Post by m_pav » Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:34 am

I just revisited this thread and realised I'd missed the 3 beeps in your first post.
On your laptop, the 3 beeps are typically related to a memory failure, so at the least, you should try removing your RAM modules and re-seating or replacing them, dependent on how many you have installed and while you're there, clear out the cooling system.
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Re: Snapshots

#18 Post by fehlix » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:26 pm

m_pav wrote:
... memory failure
Potentially a good candidate to be mentioned in the MX User's manual preparations / installation section.
Something for hunting hardware failure before installation takes place like...
- check your RAM / memory
- check health of the hdd/sdd disk
- check health of the usb-stick
...
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Re: Snapshots

#19 Post by m_pav » Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:07 am

The installer runs a S.M.A.R.T. status check before it writes anything to the hard disk. It's not a full check, but it's a whole lot better than nothing.
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Re: Snapshots

#20 Post by Vincent17 » Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:26 pm

Interesting information! I have a cheap 4-core HP laptop. The first time I ran snapshot, when I saw cpu usage and temperature, I ran the laptop to the garage and placed it on a toaster grate. Technical notes: 1. this method does not work in summer 2. wife must not see or grate will be demoted.

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