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Re: kernel options

#21 Post by stsoh » Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:51 pm

kernel 4.15 have some module license script errors.
antix 4.15 kernel also have the same fault.
check dkms status, dkms for broadcom-sta and ndiswrapper will not be install.
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Re: kernel options

#22 Post by anticapitalista » Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:36 pm

stsoh wrote:kernel 4.15 have some module license script errors.
antix 4.15 kernel also have the same fault.
check dkms status, dkms for broadcom-sta and ndiswrapper will not be install.
The dkms issue is no surprise really since I doubt anyone has built the modules yet. Patience ...

What module license script errors?
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Re: kernel options

#23 Post by entropyfoe » Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:04 pm

I have patience. I will wait until the experts have worked all the kinks out of this new kernel.

I am thankful for all the knowledge here at MX/antix that can sort through these complex issues and interactions.
I never changed a kernel until a month or two ago, so this is all new for me.

I find the MX package installer or synaptic works about 50-75% of the time getting a new kernel installed to work, and in the times if does not result in a bootable install, it is because the video driver (nvidia) does not build correctly. So there is a lot of moving pieces here, many hidden. But I knew this when I signed up for the new Ryzen chip.

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Re: kernel options

#24 Post by stsoh » Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:38 pm

anticapitalista wrote:
stsoh wrote:k....
What module license script errors?
i didn't note it down, there are six of them.
they are suppose to be corrected b4 release, i guess it's too minor to be bothered.
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Re: kernel options

#25 Post by Stevo » Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:45 pm

Often these out-of-tree drivers need to be patched or upgraded in order to build on a new kernel release. This is nothing new. If we can't find the fixes in a Debian source, we then have to hunt for fixes over on Arch or Gentoo. The stretch-backports 384.11 Nvidia driver is supposed to support 4.15 kernel builds.

At one point, I found a command via Google that would trigger all dkms packages to rebuild on all installed kernels. It's in a post here somewhere, but I recall that it was easy to find with the Goog.

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Re: kernel options

#26 Post by entropyfoe » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:41 pm

Thanks to all
d_o, anti, stevo and caprea

That worked, the sequence you described caprea. Reinstalling and of course updating-grub.
For some reason that first go through doesn't take. Kind of like having to run smxi twice in some cases.

Anyway, the system boots normally, into a wonderful MX system, powered by 4.9.75antix.2-amd.
My testing in antix 17, indicates it will be stable. So, now for a few days of testing. If it lasts 2-3 days- is will go longer.

If it is stable, I can wait a long time for the 4.15 bugs to be worked out. There the spectre patches are built in the kernel, and I read that the sensors of CPU temperatures will work for Ryzen. Yea !
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Re: kernel options

#27 Post by Stevo » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:33 pm

entropyfoe wrote:Thanks to all
d_o, anti, stevo and caprea

That worked, the sequence you described caprea. Reinstalling and of course updating-grub.
For some reason that first go through doesn't take. Kind of like having to run smxi twice in some cases.

Anyway, the system boots normally, into a wonderful MX system, powered by 4.9.75antix.2-amd.
My testing in antix 17, indicates it will be stable. So, now for a few days of testing. If it lasts 2-3 days- is will go longer.

If it is stable, I can wait a long time for the 4.15 bugs to be worked out. There the spectre patches are built in the kernel, and I read that the sensors of CPU temperatures will work for Ryzen. Yea !
Just to be pedantic, it's Meltdown that's mitigated in the newer kernels with kpti. They have a little bit of Spectre mitigation with retpoline, but there's much, much more that remains to be done for those variants. The good news is that there are still no exploits in the wild for either of those.

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Re: kernel options

#28 Post by Stevo » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:59 pm

OK, things that are supposed to build with the 4.15 kernel:

Virtual Box 5.26 from the MX 17 test repo.
Nvidia-driver 384.11
ndiswrapper 1.60-6 as soon as we port it over from testing

unknown: broadcom-sta-dkms 6.30.223.271-7 in our repo, there's no newer version upstream.

We are supposed to be using a newer bbswitch-dkms from buster to build with 4.12+ kernels, but it still seems to be working fine.

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Re: kernel options

#29 Post by stsoh » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:05 pm

eweek news about meltdown & spectre;
http://www.eweek.com/enterprise-apps/to ... re-patches
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Re: kernel options

#30 Post by stsoh » Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:59 am

imo, it is better to wait for liquorix update.
they usually release a day after any kernel update if there r no problems, otherwise they will wait until next update.
as for this update, liquorix hasn't release yet.
https://liquorix.net/debian/pool/main/l/linux-liquorix/

i did my own kernel installation, found a few scripts + dkms errors.
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