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kernel options

#1 Post by entropyfoe » Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:50 pm

On my Ryzen hardware, these patched (meltdown and spectre) kernels are unstable for me, meaning spontaneous logouts once or twice per day.
4.14.0-14.1-liqorix-amd64
4.14.0-3-amd
4.14.0-bpo.3-amd64 currently testing again, it used to go to a black screen with a cursor only like below, but there was a synaptic kernel update, among others, and now it boots, up for 2 hrs so far. But I bet will also be unstable???!
and
4.9.0-5amd64 boots to a black screen with a blinking cursor

If I run the antix 4.10 kernel, the system is unconditionally stable in MX 17 and antix 17, I have >41 days uptime with no crashes or lockups.
In antix, there is a replacement for 4.10, 4.9.75. Yup, by the 75th revision of 4.9 , it gets pretty close to 4.10. And is 6 days stable in antix 17 on this machine, so I think it is good like 4.10, but patched.
anticapitalistita wrote
Use the 4.9.77.antix.1 kernel (This *should work the same as default 4.10.5
Actually the closest match is the 4.9.75.antix.2 kernel ...I think is the closest match to 4.10

How can I run that kernel in MX 17?
It is not in the MX package installer.

And for me, sometimes, I have the black screen blinking cursor problem.
So critical is the nvidia driver. I need a working NVIDIA 375.82
And sometimes installing the kernel does not always get the driver configured or built right I am assuming from the symptom.
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Re: kernel options

#2 Post by dolphin_oracle » Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:52 pm

any antiX kernel will be present in synaptic or you can also use cli-aptiX from the terminal.
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Re: kernel options

#3 Post by entropyfoe » Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:59 pm

will the nvidia driver be built and configured?
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Re: kernel options

#4 Post by dolphin_oracle » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:05 pm

entropyfoe wrote:will the nvidia driver be built and configured?
there I can't tell you, but if it doesn't, then run

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sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-kernel-dkms
and it should force a rebuild.

actually, just rebuild it anyway should be safe enough. No need to reboot to the new kernel first (in fact, you wouldn't want to.)
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Re: kernel options

#5 Post by entropyfoe » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:21 pm

Right, I wouldn't want to boot it first, I probably have made the mistake in the past....

So I ran that after installing 4.9.75-gnu-antix.2-amd64-smp, and the headers.
Ran the dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-kernel-dkms as root,
it configured for many kernels, but nothing I see for 4.9.75.
(all 4.14, 4.10 kernels I also have installed...I should delete them, as they are unstable.)

So, with nothing for the 4.9.75 listed, I am hesitant to boot into that...I suppose I could try to boot it...
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Re: kernel options

#6 Post by dolphin_oracle » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:25 pm

ok, you don't want the "gnu" kernels. the last I checked, they do not work with proprietary drivers or firmware, so I'm not surprised the nvidia-driver didn't build. pull a non-gnu kernel.
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Re: kernel options

#7 Post by entropyfoe » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:29 pm

DO, I think I mistyped,

Here are the actual copied from synaptic...
linux-image-4.9.75-antix.2-amd64-smp
linux-headers-4.9.75-antix.2-amd64-smp
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Re: kernel options

#8 Post by dolphin_oracle » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:32 pm

can you paste the output from the dpkg-reconfigure command?
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Re: kernel options

#9 Post by entropyfoe » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:36 pm

Yes, thanks for looking at this. I know the 4.9.75 will be stable

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root@Ryzen:/home/music# dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-kernel-dkms

-------- Uninstall Beginning --------
Module:  nvidia-current
Version: 375.82
Kernel:  4.10.5-antix.3-amd64-smp (x86_64)
-------------------------------------

Status: Before uninstall, this module version was ACTIVE on this kernel.

nvidia-current.ko:
 - Uninstallation
   - Deleting from: /lib/modules/4.10.5-antix.3-amd64-smp/updates/dkms/
 - Original module
   - No original module was found for this module on this kernel.
   - Use the dkms install command to reinstall any previous module version.


nvidia-current-modeset.ko:
 - Uninstallation
   - Deleting from: /lib/modules/4.10.5-antix.3-amd64-smp/updates/dkms/
 - Original module
   - No original module was found for this module on this kernel.
   - Use the dkms install command to reinstall any previous module version.


nvidia-current-drm.ko:
 - Uninstallation
   - Deleting from: /lib/modules/4.10.5-antix.3-amd64-smp/updates/dkms/
 - Original module
   - No original module was found for this module on this kernel.
   - Use the dkms install command to reinstall any previous module version.


nvidia-current-uvm.ko:
 - Uninstallation
   - Deleting from: /lib/modules/4.10.5-antix.3-amd64-smp/updates/dkms/
 - Original module
   - No original module was found for this module on this kernel.
   - Use the dkms install command to reinstall any previous module version.

depmod...

DKMS: uninstall completed.

-------- Uninstall Beginning --------
Module:  nvidia-current
Version: 375.82
Kernel:  4.14.0-14.1-liquorix-amd64 (x86_64)
-------------------------------------

Status: Before uninstall, this module version was ACTIVE on this kernel.

nvidia-current.ko:
 - Uninstallation
   - Deleting from: /lib/modules/4.14.0-14.1-liquorix-amd64/updates/dkms/
 - Original module
   - No original module was found for this module on this kernel.
   - Use the dkms install command to reinstall any previous module version.


nvidia-current-modeset.ko:
 - Uninstallation
   - Deleting from: /lib/modules/4.14.0-14.1-liquorix-amd64/updates/dkms/
 - Original module
   - No original module was found for this module on this kernel.
   - Use the dkms install command to reinstall any previous module version.


nvidia-current-drm.ko:
 - Uninstallation
   - Deleting from: /lib/modules/4.14.0-14.1-liquorix-amd64/updates/dkms/
 - Original module
   - No original module was found for this module on this kernel.
   - Use the dkms install command to reinstall any previous module version.


nvidia-current-uvm.ko:
 - Uninstallation
   - Deleting from: /lib/modules/4.14.0-14.1-liquorix-amd64/updates/dkms/
 - Original module
   - No original module was found for this module on this kernel.
   - Use the dkms install command to reinstall any previous module version.

depmod...

DKMS: uninstall completed.

------------------------------
Deleting module version: 375.82
completely from the DKMS tree.
------------------------------
Done.
Loading new nvidia-current-375.82 DKMS files...
Building for 4.10.5-antix.3-amd64-smp 4.14.0-14.1-liquorix-amd64
Building initial module for 4.10.5-antix.3-amd64-smp
Done.

nvidia-current:
Running module version sanity check.
 - Original module
   - No original module exists within this kernel
 - Installation
   - Installing to /lib/modules/4.10.5-antix.3-amd64-smp/updates/dkms/

nvidia-current-modeset.ko:
Running module version sanity check.
 - Original module
   - No original module exists within this kernel
 - Installation
   - Installing to /lib/modules/4.10.5-antix.3-amd64-smp/updates/dkms/

nvidia-current-drm.ko:
Running module version sanity check.
 - Original module
   - No original module exists within this kernel
 - Installation
   - Installing to /lib/modules/4.10.5-antix.3-amd64-smp/updates/dkms/

nvidia-current-uvm.ko:
Running module version sanity check.
 - Original module
   - No original module exists within this kernel
 - Installation
   - Installing to /lib/modules/4.10.5-antix.3-amd64-smp/updates/dkms/

depmod...

DKMS: install completed.
Building initial module for 4.14.0-14.1-liquorix-amd64
Done.

nvidia-current:
Running module version sanity check.
 - Original module
   - No original module exists within this kernel
 - Installation
   - Installing to /lib/modules/4.14.0-14.1-liquorix-amd64/updates/dkms/

nvidia-current-modeset.ko:
Running module version sanity check.
 - Original module
   - No original module exists within this kernel
 - Installation
   - Installing to /lib/modules/4.14.0-14.1-liquorix-amd64/updates/dkms/

nvidia-current-drm.ko:
Running module version sanity check.
 - Original module
   - No original module exists within this kernel
 - Installation
   - Installing to /lib/modules/4.14.0-14.1-liquorix-amd64/updates/dkms/

nvidia-current-uvm.ko:
Running module version sanity check.
 - Original module
   - No original module exists within this kernel
 - Installation
   - Installing to /lib/modules/4.14.0-14.1-liquorix-amd64/updates/dkms/

depmod...

DKMS: install completed.
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Re: kernel options

#10 Post by dolphin_oracle » Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:00 pm

well you are right, I don't see it in the output. So I'm not sure what will happen on reboot.

you could purge out the nvidia driver

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sudo ddm-mx -p nvidia
before reboot, then boot into the new kernel and reinstall.
http://www.youtube.com/runwiththedolphin
lenovo ThinkPad T530 - MX-17
lenovo s21e & 100s - antiX-17, MX17(live-usb)
FYI: mx "test" repo is not the same thing as debian testing repo.

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