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Predicted RAM Requirements for the future

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Predicted RAM Requirements for the future

#1 Post by greyowl » Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:30 pm

I have two Dell laptops: Latitude D620 (duel core-2 GHz processor) and Latitude E6400 (duel core 2.52 GHz processor). Both have 2 GB of RAM. I will probably continue using them for the next 10-20 years with antiX or MX. I just surf the internet with PaleMoon or Firefox and use Libre Office and a Photo Viewing program. Two GB of RAM is more that adequate running antiX now which only take 117mb of RAM.

I have a chance to buy some used RAM which would increase them to 3 or 4 GB each. I am just wondering if 2GB of RAM will be adequate for the next 10-20 years, or if it would be prudent to increase it to 3 or 4 GB.
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Re: Predicted RAM Requirements for the future

#2 Post by richb » Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:38 pm

With the relative inexpensive cost of RAM bump them to 4 Gig. Twenty years from now who knows what computing will look like. You might need 100 GIG or 2 will be enough.
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Re: Predicted RAM Requirements for the future

#3 Post by timkb4cq » Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:45 pm

To predict the future, let's look at the past.
10 years ago, MEPIS 7 would run on 192mb ram (I did so on my Compaq Armada), although 512mb was recommended for the best experience.
MX-17 requires 512mb to run and 2GB for best experience.

Now, past experience is no guarantee of future results, but squinting at these figures & extrapolating another 10 years, it looks like a minimum of 1.5 ~ 2 GB to run & 8GB for best experience are likely a decade hence.

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Re: Predicted RAM Requirements for the future

#4 Post by entropyfoe » Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:48 pm

If the RAM is cheap, max it out.
You will spread the cost of that memory out over many years, making the per year cost low.

The main benefit is speed, keeping operations in RAM is always faster than hitting the disk, so you will enjoy faster surfing, photos, and documents.
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Re: Predicted RAM Requirements for the future

#5 Post by cyrilus31 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:27 pm

I will make a guess....mmmmhh.....mmmhh.... :exclamation:
I suppose your laptops will die well before the next 20 years. And Web browsing will need at least an octocore 8Ghz :p

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#6 Post by timkb4cq » Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:32 pm

I'd guess that long before your 20 year window is up, most major browsers will require CPUs that have been reworked to prevent Spectre style attacks.
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Re: Predicted RAM Requirements for the future

#7 Post by Stevo » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:47 pm

Barring the Singularity, where the computers have taken over and downloaded us. Then they'll be asking each other how much RAM it takes to run an instance of Stevo 2.0.

Or maybe in 20 years we'll all be using processors built into our clothes and meshed into the cloud, displays in contact lenses or glasses, and the question won't make any sense. Oldsters that cling to their phones, tablets, or laptops will be like someone using an ear trumpet or an Amish buggy today, like in Venor Vinge's Rainbows End.

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#8 Post by asqwerth » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:21 am

Ooh, Vernor Vinge mention! I read 2 of his books long ago - really good. Just been too lazy or tired in recent times to really indulge in good scifi.

Putting aside possible futuristic equipment, and the likelihood of needing new CPUs or hardware to be safer, my feel is that 2 GB may become too tight. Upgrade RAM as much as you are able on the hardware and your budget.

Just the browser itself, if you want web pages displayed fully with all the nice features, increases RAM use significantly.

On booting up my MX17, before FF Quantum was opened, my RAM reading was 400-500MB (I can't get the 300+ MB readings some others do because I have variety, compiz and radiotray autostarted on boot). The minute FF was opened, RAM use jumps to almost 800MB with a few pre-opened tabs. If you open a few more tabs, run a few more programs or do a few more tasks at the same time, that's it.

On the other hand, when I got my ASUS laptop around 2012, I upgraded the RAM to 6GB. Six years later, I've never hit anywhere close to that. But that's because I do very boring, run of the mill stuff on my computers. Around that time I also got my parents their iMac, and I think I asked for 4 to 6GB RAM as well. That's still fine today.

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Re: Predicted RAM Requirements for the future

#9 Post by azrielle » Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:44 am

If it takes ddr2 RAM, get it used while it's still cheap. Pretty sure it's no longer made. The price will only go up as it becomes scarcer.
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Re: Predicted RAM Requirements for the future

#10 Post by chrispop99 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:52 am

For the things you use your machines for, 2GB is enough.

It's extremely unlikely your machines will be in use in 20 years time. Even if the hardware survives that long, operating systems will have evolved to work with more modern hardware, and older stuff will be left behind. For example, a Pentium 3 CPU from 18 years ago will still accept a Linux install, but no modern web browser will run on it, so for most folk it would be useless.

Save the money towards newer hardware when your existing machines die!

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