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Predicted RAM Requirements for the future

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Re: Predicted RAM Requirements for the future

#11 Postby cyrilus31 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:28 am

chrispop99 wrote:For the things you use your machines for, 2GB is enough.

It's extremely unlikely your machines will be in use in 20 years time. Even if the hardware survives that long, operating systems will have evolved to work with more modern hardware, and older stuff will be left behind. For example, a Pentium 3 CPU from 18 years ago will still accept a Linux install, but no modern web browser will run on it, so for most folk it would be useless.

Save the money towards newer hardware when your existing machines die!

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Honestly it depends on what you do with your laptop. My oldest is a Dell Inspiron (15 years old) : 2go of ram max, desktop P4 inside. antiX and even MX function Ok, but using a web browser is sometimes painful especially when I open more than 2-3 tabs. Yet I can use libreoffice, and do many things and I keep this one cause I love maintaining old hardware.
The fact is that computer power had a tremendous progression during the 90s and the beginning of 2000. But for everyday use (no videogames, nor highly demanding programs) you won't see the difference between today and 10 years old CPU. As for ram, I'm sure that 2 to 4Go will be far enough in the next 10 years.

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Re: Predicted RAM Requirements for the future

#12 Postby bwich12 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:45 am

Ask Bill Gates, he knows a thing or two about RAM requirements. (Though it actually seems he never uttered this famous 640-KB quote.)

Seriously, I think that we are SLOWLY getting to the point where both CPU performance and RAM requirements are reaching a plateau that is "good enough" for most people (not hard-core gamers or Bitcoin miners, of course).

For decades I used to switch my two main PCs every 5 or 6 years to the then fastest processor -- always Intel :-( --, but I can see that my current HW will last significantly longer than that (so long as I can get security updates for the most important software apps) and that replacing it in a few years' time with a then mid-range CPU will be more than enough. Same for RAM. On machines that use VMs I have Core i5s with 8GB or 12GB running 64-bit hosts, on the others Core i3s with 4GB running 32GB hosts. That is plenty for the foreseeable future. IMHO and YMMV.

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Re: Predicted RAM Requirements for the future

#13 Postby kb50 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:31 pm

So that MX sets Swap file at 2GB is intentional, and not based on Hibernation or computer installed ram?
My system has 12GB with up to 24GB (HP Pegatron Motherboard) and Core I7.
So should I boot the live DVD/USB and use Gparted, to resize the main partition, and then recreate the Swap Partition to 12GB roughly or higher?
Performance is the goal, and wanting apps to open fast and not have to wait.
In reference to that issue, one thing I do notice is that when waking up from standby, the system does act same as if you had just booted into it. I.E. Chrome and other apps, initially take a while to load up again.
As Chrome is supposed to be running in the background, and in fact does show it in the Notification Area. I would like to keep the system running to immediately pop up Chrome and other recently used apps, if possible. Not the ones that I had not launched but ones I had. Mostly Chrome, perhaps Thunderbird.

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Re: Predicted RAM Requirements for the future

#14 Postby richb » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:10 pm

I have 16 Gb and a 6 Gb swap partition that rarely gets used. Typical RAM usage is 2 to 3 Gb but rarely do I have more than three apps open. Two Gb is a bit lean with the Ram you have so yes set up a larger swap partition. Whether 12 Gb or less is up to you based on what your typical ram usage is. As far as recovery from suspend, I have not noticed much of a delay but I have not really paid much attention.
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Re: Predicted RAM Requirements for the future

#15 Postby greyowl » Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:31 am

Everyone, thank you for the comments. They are helpful. I have purchased the additional RAM.


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