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[*Solved] Recovering journal

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[*Solved] Recovering journal

#1 Post by dr-kart » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:08 pm

Another thing that disturbs me just found.

MX17x64 runs on two desktops now.
First is intel cpu with conventional (bit problematic according to smart report) hdd. (**ms-dos partition table is used). It works for months with no tangible issues or warnings. But one thing I find weird though.
I get recovering journal message upon bootup. (then "Clean" message follows) I'd like to name it hit or miss. But no, it's happening rather frequently. Anyway I wouldn't regard it as an issue since hdd there is not perfect.

But I have another desktop with amd cpu onboard and brand new ssd (**GPT p/table). And I get there such message too.

I'm not an expert. But I think it might be kind of common issue regardless kernel in use. I have these messages with MX main line kernel and debian 4.9 as well. Maybe system is not shutting down correctly on daily basis? And that's why I've been facing root file system check almost every time at boot process' begining ?
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Re: Recovering journal

#2 Post by Stevo » Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:04 pm

Yes, you only should see that message if you don't get a clean shutdown. Normally you see that if you lose power, for example. That is worrying. I know there are some command line ways to perform shutdowns, but we have to research that...I don't recall any except "reboot" at the moment.

Do you still get the message if you just boot to the login screen and then shutdown? How about after warm reboots?

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#3 Post by dr-kart » Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:12 pm

Well now I have autologin on both machines.
But I did try to logout to lightdm welcome screen and shutdown then. Then turned power on and found recovering journal message again (second desktop with new ssd)

FWIW I have to add that both PCs are using tmp mounted as tmpfs via fstab
viewtopic.php?p=429945#p429945

Edit: Turned autologin off and made a test. The same.

Edit2: Turning off tmp as tmpfs won't affect the issue. Tested.
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Re: Recovering journal

#4 Post by anticapitalista » Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:29 pm

dr-kart wrote:
FWIW I have to add that both PCs are using tmp mounted as tmpfs via fstab
viewtopic.php?p=429945#p429945
Turn that off and what happens?
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#5 Post by dr-kart » Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:35 pm

Just did it anticapitalista with no effect

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#6 Post by dr-kart » Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:07 pm

One more question on /var/log/fsck/checkfs file:

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Log of fsck -C -R -A -a 
Tue Jan  9 01:31:17 2018

fsck from util-linux 2.29.2

Tue Jan  9 01:31:17 2018
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Does the date above reflect actual latest file system check? And it should not be updated when normal boot occurs. In other words, if I permanently observe updated file system check date here - it means that system always tries to check file system for a reason (improper shutdown for instance). Or this fsck date is being updated every bootup even when everything is ok?

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#7 Post by dolphin_oracle » Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:27 pm

there is a fsck every boot. a quick one.

are you just seeing the "clean" message, or do you actually see the "recovering journal" message. I get the fsck on everyboot, but I only see the "recovering journal" type stuff in the invent that I've hosed something.
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#8 Post by dr-kart » Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:09 am

dolphin_oracle wrote: are you just seeing the "clean" message, or do you actually see the "recovering journal" message
Just like I said before and named the topic.
I do see "recovering journal" message (with "Clean" following) on two desktops:
1st - intel cpu+hdd with 4.14.0-3-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.14.12-2~mx17+1 (2018-01-06) kernel
2nd - amd cpu+ssd with 4.9.0-5-amd64 debian kernel (4.9.65-3+deb9u2)

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#9 Post by dr-kart » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:48 am

:confused: what journal/log file to check and see (maybe) why filesystem wasn't unmounted properly during last shutdown/reboot?

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#10 Post by dr-kart » Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:53 pm

finally
I found culprit (I'm not using NM viewtopic.php?f=107&t=43611 )
it's wicd set to autoconnect. Manual disconnect before reboot would resolve the issue.

Now I need to come up with perfect shutdown without manual wicd disconnection.

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