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[SOLVED]This could get complicated

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trefall
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[SOLVED]This could get complicated

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Post by trefall » Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:54 pm

Folks,
I'm new to MX-16 but not to Linux[Mint and Manjaro]. I'm not a Linux pro but usually understand when you're using in Linux jargon.
Situation - I'm changing the distro on my other laptop. I installed from usb because everything worked fine when running live. Well something happened during install and nothing worked afterward. So, I decided to install another distro, like I said. This time I've gotta use my MX-16 machine to download and make my liveusb.
Problem - MX-16 machine doesn't seem to like to do this menial task. Some times it'll burn on the usb fine but most time it won't. I've tried everything I can find using different programs and sequences but nothing seems to create a consistently functional liveusb. I've used LUM, and UNetbootin.
My normal sequence is download .iso, verify using md5/sha256, then burn to usb using one of the programs previously mentioned. When using UNetbootin and sometimes LUM everything goes fine then the last few seconds it says "Can't find grub" and shows the usb burned fine (but it obviously didn't). I tend to agree with those who says UB is 'flaky'. On the other machine the liveusb some times loads but from startup pauses and after a minute runs down a cascade of errors mentioning "dracut-initqueue[564].
Other programs or techniques, things to check and any other suggestions are greatly appreciated.
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Re: This could get complicated

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Post by Paul.. » Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:57 pm

Try MX Tools->Live-usb-maker...

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Re: This could get complicated

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Post by Adrian » Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:59 pm

It might be better to use the tool developed by our people it's in MX Tools -> live-usb maker (or run it from terminal: live-usb-maker) but make sure you have a good USB flashdrive.

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Re: This could get complicated

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Post by dolphin_oracle » Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:05 pm

1. i would bet the grub installer became confused and installed to the mbr rather than a uefi installation. but that's my guess.

2. unetbootin won't work with all distros because of variances in the syslinux bootloader. If they use syslinux to boot, our version *may* be different, and they aren't backward compatible.

3. there is always "dd", and I have found "etcher" to be nice. You can install it as a "appimage" from their website, which is like a "portable app" .
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Re: This could get complicated

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Post by trefall » Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:17 pm

Great to see quick responses the LUM I mentioned is the [Live Usb Maker]
DO - I tried Etcher but no luck. It had a problem installing 'completely' into MX but 'ran' the other laptop just didn't recognize it, as mentioned in my initial post. I'll try Etcher again. Changed usb and still get 'Can't find grub.cfg' using LUM.
Thanks for the replies.
*****No joy with Etcher.
"sd 6:0:0 [sdb] No caching page found
sd 6:0:0 [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through" Shows up before the 'dracut...' problem I mentioned before. Could it be bad usb? Seems odd that the .iso screen would load at all then freeze. I don't understand the error completely but 'sdb' is my usb drive.
Again, thoughts or suggestions are appreciated.

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Re: This could get complicated

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Post by v3g4n » Mon Feb 06, 2017 6:35 pm

+1 for "dd". Worked everytime that I've used it which is alot.

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Re: This could get complicated

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Post by kmathern » Mon Feb 06, 2017 7:20 pm

trefall wrote:...When using UNetbootin and sometimes LUM everything goes fine then the last few seconds it says "Can't find grub" and shows the usb burned fine (but it obviously didn't)...
You might try running Live-Usb-maker a second time from the command line and choose option "5" (Reinstall legacy bootloader on existing live-usb) from the first menu.

Code: Select all

$ sudo live-usb-maker
Starting live-usb-maker
Only one target usb device was found: sdb  1.9G SanDisk Cruzer
Will use target device sdb

Please select what action to perform
  1) Make a full-featured live-usb (default)
  2) Make a customized live-usb
  3) Update UUIDS on existing live-usb
  4) Update boot parameters on existing live-usb
  5) Reinstall legacy bootloader on existing live-usb
Press <Enter> for the default selection
Use 'h' for help.  Use 'q' to quit.
5
Will use source  null

Ready to perform install action(s) on sdb
Shall we begin?
  1) yes (default)
  2) no
  3) pretend mode
Press <Enter> for the default selection
Use 'h' for help.  Use 'q' to quit.


Filesystem     Type 1M-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdb1      ext4      1820  1140       664  64% /run/live-usb-maker/ext
/dev/sdb2      vfat        50    15        36  30% /run/live-usb-maker/fat

=> install
extlinux version 6.04
1+0 records in
1+0 records out
440 bytes (440 B) copied, 0.000465899 s, 944 kB/s
/run/live-usb-maker/ext/boot/syslinux is device /dev/sdb1
=> done
kent@mx1:~
$
As far as I can tell that option is only available when running Live-Usb-maker in cli mode.

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Re: This could get complicated

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Post by trefall » Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:12 pm

Kent, Didn't work but THAT's AWESOME! I don't know why I don't use terminal more often. :happy: Lazy I guess.
I get everything you showed in your post. Still nothing but the liveusb start screen using the usb on the other computer. I'm thinking something happened to the other computer. I'm just trying to get any distro to load on it. I'm thinking it's this
"sd 6:0:0 [sdb] No caching page found
sd 6:0:0 [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through" Shows up before the 'dracut...' problem. Still seems to be usb or MX related but can't be sure of that.
I'll keep plugging away. Any other ideas, I'll try them. Thanks.

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Re: This could get complicated

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Post by asqwerth » Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:19 pm

Which distro's iso are you trying to write? There were one or two that gave me dracut error messages no matter what, forcing me ultimately to burn the image on DVD.
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Re: This could get complicated

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Post by zeeone » Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:21 pm

It is complicated now days. Best to check the destro and check what they are doing to load the OS. Thank you Intel for the mess. :popcorn:
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