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Bigger upgrade, is this safe? [solved]

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Bigger upgrade, is this safe? [solved]

#1 Post by Eadwine Rose » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:03 pm

I just refreshed and I always fear those upgrades with more packages, though one package alone can make things go awry (don't I know it, from long ago..), so.. I ask: is this upgrade safe:

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base-files (version 8+deb8u6) will be upgraded to version 8+deb8u7
bash (version 4.3-11+b1) will be upgraded to version 4.3-11+deb8u1
ca-certificates (version 20141019+deb8u1) will be upgraded to version 20141019+deb8u2
dbus (version 1.8.20-0+deb8u1) will be upgraded to version 1.8.22-0+deb8u1
dbus-x11 (version 1.8.20-0+deb8u1) will be upgraded to version 1.8.22-0+deb8u1
e2fslibs (version 1.42.12-2) will be upgraded to version 1.42.12-2+b1
e2fsprogs (version 1.42.12-2) will be upgraded to version 1.42.12-2+b1
file (version 1:5.22+15-2+deb8u2) will be upgraded to version 1:5.22+15-2+deb8u3
libc-bin (version 2.19-18+deb8u6) will be upgraded to version 2.19-18+deb8u7
libc-dev-bin (version 2.19-18+deb8u6) will be upgraded to version 2.19-18+deb8u7
libc6 (version 2.19-18+deb8u6) will be upgraded to version 2.19-18+deb8u7
libc6-dev (version 2.19-18+deb8u6) will be upgraded to version 2.19-18+deb8u7
libc6:i386 (version 2.19-18+deb8u6) will be upgraded to version 2.19-18+deb8u7
libcomerr2 (version 1.42.12-2) will be upgraded to version 1.42.12-2+b1
libcomerr2:i386 (version 1.42.12-2) will be upgraded to version 1.42.12-2+b1
libdbus-1-3 (version 1.8.20-0+deb8u1) will be upgraded to version 1.8.22-0+deb8u1
libdbus-1-3:i386 (version 1.8.20-0+deb8u1) will be upgraded to version 1.8.22-0+deb8u1
libgnutls-deb0-28 (version 3.3.8-6+deb8u3) will be upgraded to version 3.3.8-6+deb8u4
libgnutls-deb0-28:i386 (version 3.3.8-6+deb8u3) will be upgraded to version 3.3.8-6+deb8u4
libgnutls-openssl27 (version 3.3.8-6+deb8u3) will be upgraded to version 3.3.8-6+deb8u4
libgudev-1.0-0 (version 215-17+deb8u5) will be upgraded to version 215-17+deb8u6
libhogweed2 (version 2.7.1-5+deb8u1) will be upgraded to version 2.7.1-5+deb8u2
libhogweed2:i386 (version 2.7.1-5+deb8u1) will be upgraded to version 2.7.1-5+deb8u2
libio-socket-ssl-perl (version 2.002-2+deb8u1) will be upgraded to version 2.002-2+deb8u2
libmagic1 (version 1:5.22+15-2+deb8u2) will be upgraded to version 1:5.22+15-2+deb8u3
libmpg123-0 (version 1.20.1-2) will be upgraded to version 1.20.1-2+deb8u1
libnettle4 (version 2.7.1-5+deb8u1) will be upgraded to version 2.7.1-5+deb8u2
libnettle4:i386 (version 2.7.1-5+deb8u1) will be upgraded to version 2.7.1-5+deb8u2
libpam-modules (version 1.1.8-3.1+deb8u1+b1) will be upgraded to version 1.1.8-3.1+deb8u2
libpam-modules-bin (version 1.1.8-3.1+deb8u1+b1) will be upgraded to version 1.1.8-3.1+deb8u2
libpam-runtime (version 1.1.8-3.1+deb8u1) will be upgraded to version 1.1.8-3.1+deb8u2
libpam-systemd (version 215-17+deb8u5) will be upgraded to version 215-17+deb8u6
libpam0g (version 1.1.8-3.1+deb8u1+b1) will be upgraded to version 1.1.8-3.1+deb8u2
libpng12-0 (version 1.2.50-2+deb8u2) will be upgraded to version 1.2.50-2+deb8u3
libpng12-0:i386 (version 1.2.50-2+deb8u2) will be upgraded to version 1.2.50-2+deb8u3
libpng12-dev (version 1.2.50-2+deb8u2) will be upgraded to version 1.2.50-2+deb8u3
libqt5core5a (version 5.3.2+dfsg-4+deb8u1) will be upgraded to version 5.3.2+dfsg-4+deb8u2
libqt5dbus5 (version 5.3.2+dfsg-4+deb8u1) will be upgraded to version 5.3.2+dfsg-4+deb8u2
libqt5gui5 (version 5.3.2+dfsg-4+deb8u1) will be upgraded to version 5.3.2+dfsg-4+deb8u2
libqt5network5 (version 5.3.2+dfsg-4+deb8u1) will be upgraded to version 5.3.2+dfsg-4+deb8u2
libqt5opengl5 (version 5.3.2+dfsg-4+deb8u1) will be upgraded to version 5.3.2+dfsg-4+deb8u2
libqt5printsupport5 (version 5.3.2+dfsg-4+deb8u1) will be upgraded to version 5.3.2+dfsg-4+deb8u2
libqt5sql5 (version 5.3.2+dfsg-4+deb8u1) will be upgraded to version 5.3.2+dfsg-4+deb8u2
libqt5widgets5 (version 5.3.2+dfsg-4+deb8u1) will be upgraded to version 5.3.2+dfsg-4+deb8u2
libss2 (version 1.42.12-2) will be upgraded to version 1.42.12-2+b1
libsystemd0 (version 215-17+deb8u5) will be upgraded to version 215-17+deb8u6
libsystemd0:i386 (version 215-17+deb8u5) will be upgraded to version 215-17+deb8u6
libudev1 (version 215-17+deb8u5) will be upgraded to version 215-17+deb8u6
libudev1:i386 (version 215-17+deb8u5) will be upgraded to version 215-17+deb8u6
libwmf0.2-7 (version 0.2.8.4-10.3+deb8u1) will be upgraded to version 0.2.8.4-10.3+deb8u2
locales (version 2.19-18+deb8u6) will be upgraded to version 2.19-18+deb8u7
most (version 5.0.0a-2.3) will be upgraded to version 5.0.0a-2.3+deb8u1
multiarch-support (version 2.19-18+deb8u6) will be upgraded to version 2.19-18+deb8u7
python-crypto (version 2.6.1-5+b2) will be upgraded to version 2.6.1-5+deb8u1
sed (version 4.2.2-4+b1) will be upgraded to version 4.2.2-4+deb8u1
systemd (version 215-17+deb8u5) will be upgraded to version 215-17+deb8u6
udev (version 215-17+deb8u5) will be upgraded to version 215-17+deb8u6
MX-17.1_x64 Horizon 14-3-2018 * 4.15.0-1-amd64 ext4 Xfce 4.12.3 * AMD Asus M4A785TD-V EVO AM3 * ASUS GF GT640-1GD5-L NVIDIA 384.130 * AMD Proc. Athl II X4 635, sAM3 * HDA ATI SB VT1708S An * 2x4Gb DDR3 1600 Kingst * 22" Samsung SyncM P2250 * HP F2280

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Re: Bigger upgrade, is this safe?

#2 Post by Stevo » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:14 pm

That's the scheduled Debian 8.7 update: https://lists.debian.org/debian-live/20 ... 00037.html

In the past, the point updates have not had any problems, and upgrading the packages is highly recommended for any security fixes they provide.

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Re: Bigger upgrade, is this safe?

#3 Post by kevjonesin » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:18 pm

I suggest backing up before upgrading. After recent upgrades ("apt-get upgrade" followed by "apt-get dist-upgrade" both via default GUI app) to MX-15 on my ThinkPad laptop fails to boot to GUI. Black screen with blinking cursor at boot. <Ctrl>+<Alt>+<F1> to login to TTY CLI console and I can then launch GUI with 'startx' though. There was an error message. "[ 82.741491] systemd-logind[2323]: Failed to start user service: Unknown unit: user@1000.service" at CLI login, BTW. And the aptitude ncurses interface showed package conflicts. Anyway, proceed with caution. I backed up with MX Snapshot before 'upgrading' (last round of updates tickled my spidey sense as well) so may just reinstall and go from there in steps rather than try to troubleshoot present state.
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Re: Bigger upgrade, is this safe?

#4 Post by richb » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:21 pm

I took the upgrade with no issues.
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Re: Bigger upgrade, is this safe?

#5 Post by Eadwine Rose » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:25 pm

Hrmmm.. indeed I will make a backup with clonezilla first then.
MX-17.1_x64 Horizon 14-3-2018 * 4.15.0-1-amd64 ext4 Xfce 4.12.3 * AMD Asus M4A785TD-V EVO AM3 * ASUS GF GT640-1GD5-L NVIDIA 384.130 * AMD Proc. Athl II X4 635, sAM3 * HDA ATI SB VT1708S An * 2x4Gb DDR3 1600 Kingst * 22" Samsung SyncM P2250 * HP F2280

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Re: Bigger upgrade, is this safe?

#6 Post by vinzv » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:31 pm

No issues. Everything went through flawless.
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(Intel Core i5 / 16GB Kingston RAM / Samsung 840 SSD / Intel HD Graphics 3000 / Intel Wifi 6205 AGN / MX-16 64bit)

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Bigger upgrade, is this safe? ->OK for me

#7 Post by entropyfoe » Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:04 pm

I took everything, all updates... it looked mostly like debian stuff.
The signature machine had 30 days up time... a good time for a reboot.

All appears normal and working after all updates and a reboot.
Asus Prime 370X-Pro
AMD Ryzen 1600X (6 cores @ 3.6 GHz)
16 Gig DDR4 3200 (G Skill)
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Samsung 960 NVMe SSD nvme0n1 P1,P2, and P3=MX-17.1, P4=antiX-17
1TB SSD sda1= Data, 2TB WD =backups
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Re: Bigger upgrade, is this safe?

#8 Post by Adrian » Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:04 pm

Great timing, I will release the first monthly snapshot for MX-16 in a couple of days, it will include the new Debian updates.

BTW, just a clarification for people who are not used with the monthly snapshots, if you have MX installed there's no need to download it, it's just a convenient way to offer an up-to-date ISO for people who want to download MX Linux or who want to run the Live environment with the latest packages/bug fixes.

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Re: Bigger upgrade, is this safe?

#9 Post by Stevo » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:43 pm

kevjonesin wrote:I suggest backing up before upgrading. After recent upgrades ("apt-get upgrade" followed by "apt-get dist-upgrade" both via default GUI app) to MX-15 on my ThinkPad laptop fails to boot to GUI. Black screen with blinking cursor at boot. <Ctrl>+<Alt>+<F1> to login to TTY CLI console and I can then launch GUI with 'startx' though. There was an error message. "[ 82.741491] systemd-logind[2323]: Failed to start user service: Unknown unit: user@1000.service" at CLI login, BTW. And the aptitude ncurses interface showed package conflicts. Anyway, proceed with caution. I backed up with MX Snapshot before 'upgrading' (last round of updates tickled my spidey sense as well) so may just reinstall and go from there in steps rather than try to troubleshoot present state.
That was caused by a MX 16 package that got into the MX 15 repo by mistake--Debian's point upgrades to Jessie have been rock solid so far.

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Re: Bigger upgrade, is this safe?

#10 Post by Eadwine Rose » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:03 am

Upgrade done and survived. :happy:
MX-17.1_x64 Horizon 14-3-2018 * 4.15.0-1-amd64 ext4 Xfce 4.12.3 * AMD Asus M4A785TD-V EVO AM3 * ASUS GF GT640-1GD5-L NVIDIA 384.130 * AMD Proc. Athl II X4 635, sAM3 * HDA ATI SB VT1708S An * 2x4Gb DDR3 1600 Kingst * 22" Samsung SyncM P2250 * HP F2280

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