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Re: Late to the party - this looks good

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Post by Jerry3904 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:00 am

colin_b wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:12 pm
I don't mean to be a pain, but I have a gripe.

I went to https://mxlinux.org/ to find https://mxlinux.org/download-links and it took me more than 10 minutes to find it. I was on the verge of giving up when I finally tried "Sources" from the "Products" menu.

As a suggestion, would it be possible for the "Download directly" link on the main page to be replaced with a link to the "Download Links" page since this links directly to the "Download directly" page?

Many more people will then find the "Download Links" page and its accompanying video, and they will have no problems finding the distro download page.
Sorry, but you must have better things to complain about than this. I posted a hyperlink, and all you needed to do was to click on it, or copy it and paste it in a browser. This user action is universal on the web, and the link may look different than the actual URL (look at the ones we use at the top, such as "BUGS"); this has been SOP since hyperlinks became widespread over 20 years ago. Finally, that link is identical to the one on DistroWatch's page, which tens of thousands of users have negotiated without problem.
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Re: Late to the party - this looks good

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Post by Jerry3904 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:11 am

There should be a mxlinux.org/download and mxlinux.org/downloads redirects too
Not sure what this means exactly or why anyone would invent a URL and be surprised it doesn't work, but on the Home page the first link in the right column is named "Download directly" and leads to the page of mirrors.
I agree.

"Sources" sounds like the list of repositories used in MX Linux.

To add to the confusion, the repository list is also hard to find, unless you click on the Wiki page and search for it.
The entire website is currently being moved over to WordPress, and once that is done links can be renamed, reordered, reintroduced or removed until the cows come home.
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Re: Late to the party - this looks good

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Post by colin_b » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:55 pm

Jerry3904 wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:00 am
Sorry, but you must have better things to complain about than this. I posted a hyperlink, and all you needed to do was to click on it, or copy it and paste it in a browser.
I didn't post my comment to be a pain. I went to https://mxlinux.org/download-links from the link in the forum and was impressed by the page.

I then decided to go to https://mxlinux.org/ to see if I could find the https://mxlinux.org/download-links page from there. The reason I did this was to see if the page was easy to find for someone visiting the site for the first time, and I found this wasn't the case. You have an excellent download page which covers all bases but will be missed by most people, and this is a crying shame.

If https://mxlinux.org/download-links was accessed from the "Download directly" link then it would be used by everyone.

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Re: Late to the party - this looks good

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Post by colin_b » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:45 pm

Jerry3904 wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:00 am
Sorry, but you must have better things to complain about than this...
Jerry, I've got to ask whether you'd had too much coffee when you posted this comment.

The reason I posted my gripe about the inaccessibility of https://mxlinux.org/download-links from https://mxlinux.org/ was I used to put websites together, and my policy when doing this was it was pointless creating a great page if no-one could easily find it. When I checked out https://mxlinux.org/ I found this was the case for https://mxlinux.org/download-links.

When I posted the gripe it was aimed to be constructive criticism, I wasn't slating the website.

Is critique of the website an off-limits topic?

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Re: Late to the party - this looks good

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Post by Adrian » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:22 pm

No worries, everybody is grumpy from time to time... :hug:

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Re: Late to the party - this looks good

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Post by Jerry3904 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:04 am

colin_b wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:45 pm
Jerry3904 wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:00 am
Sorry, but you must have better things to complain about than this...
Jerry, I've got to ask whether you'd had too much coffee when you posted this comment.

The reason I posted my gripe about the inaccessibility of https://mxlinux.org/download-links from https://mxlinux.org/ was I used to put websites together, and my policy when doing this was it was pointless creating a great page if no-one could easily find it. When I checked out https://mxlinux.org/ I found this was the case for https://mxlinux.org/download-links.

When I posted the gripe it was aimed to be constructive criticism, I wasn't slating the website.

Is critique of the website an off-limits topic?
No, your gripe just made no sense to me in terms of importance--as I tried to explain.
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Re: Late to the party - this looks good

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Post by Richard » Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:15 am

OK, now I see it.

There is no link to find https://mxlinux.org/download-links
from the main portal page: https://mxlinux.org.

It exists in Ways to Get it, but you need to drill down through Products Page
and scroll to fine it.

Would be helpful if this was in the somewhat overloaded [Products] menu, somewhere:
Downloads Page
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Re: Late to the party - this looks good

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Post by asqwerth » Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:24 am

Jerry,

I think it is a reasonable suggestion - not so much that it's urgent or absolutely vital - in order for the main download page to be found more easily.

I consider this page: https://mxlinux.org/download-links to be the "main" download page because it refers to both file and torrent downloads. From there, there is a link to the iso download mirrors page in any case, and advice is set out on how and from where to download.

From the homepage of the website, I think most users would assume the link labelled "Download Directly" would lead logically to that main download page, since it's in contrast to the "Stream a torrent" link just below, but instead it leads to "ISO Download Mirrors" and the first thing you see is the map.

I think it makes sense for "Download Directly" on the home page to lead to the https://mxlinux.org/download-links page rather than the https://mxlinux.org/wiki/system/iso-download-mirrors page.
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Re: Late to the party - this looks good

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Post by Jerry3904 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:32 am

@Richard: oh, that makes more sense.

@asqwerth: thanks. I did intend those 3 links to be a shortcut to avoid needing to go through one more page when the user already knew what s/he wanted to do.

I won't change anything until the new site is finished, then we can look at the whole picture (including why I am even doing this).
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Re: Late to the party - this looks good

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Post by colin_b » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:48 pm

My apologies if I have caused you undue stress Jerry.

I do hereby pledge to try to avoid this in future :contract:

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