Can Gnome Shell work without systemd?

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koesherbacon
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Can Gnome Shell work without systemd?

#1 Post by koesherbacon »

Hey fellow MX'rs! Hope everyone is well. I've a quick question. Quite a while ago I think I remember reading that Gnome Shell requires systemd in order to properly run as a desktop. I'm extremely happy with the heavilily customized xfce desktop I currently have but am curious to try Gnome again after parting ways a quote a long time ago. Does GS still require systemd? I currently have Gnome Disks working just fine by using a dummy systrmd package available in the mx repo. Could GS work similarly as a whole?

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Re: Can Gnome Shell work without systemd?

#2 Post by dolphin_oracle »

Yes gnome still requires systemd. But we have systemd installed so it should work. Check out desktop environments in mx-packageinstaller ->popular apps. I believe there is a gnome setup in there.
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Re: Can Gnome Shell work without systemd?

#3 Post by Jerry3904 »

I currently have Gnome Disks working just fine by using a dummy systrmd package available in the mx repo.
No need to install anything I don't believe: "when the GRUB screen is displayed, click on Advanced options... and select to use systemd" (Wiki: Systemd).
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Re: Can Gnome Shell work without systemd?

#4 Post by plzd »

Has anyone ran into this upon attempting to install Gnome Base DE?

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Re: Can Gnome Shell work without systemd?

#5 Post by dolphin_oracle »

I just did a simulated run without problem.


***edit*** or maybe a problem with gdm...will investigate as time allows tonight.
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Re: Can Gnome Shell work without systemd?

#6 Post by dolphin_oracle »

well, installed fine here.

here's my /var/log/mxpi.log

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so something else you have installed is conflicting.
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Re: Can Gnome Shell work without systemd?

#7 Post by plzd »

Thanks for your reply. How do I figure out how to fix it so I can install Gnome? Thanks again.
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Re: Can Gnome Shell work without systemd?

#8 Post by dolphin_oracle »

I usually try from the terminal to "apt-get install" whatever depenency is coming up a problem until finally we get to a root problem.

its also helpful to know if you've installed any apps from test or other sources besides debian-stable. especially gnome or maybe gtk apps.
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Re: Can Gnome Shell work without systemd?

#9 Post by asqwerth »

plzd wrote: Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:25 pm Thanks for your reply. How do I figure out how to fix it so I can install Gnome? Thanks again.
Yes, what other repos are you using?

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inxi -r

[ADDED] looking at your earlier screenshot, I noticed you had some waterfox repos, one of which was for Ubuntu16.04. That's already a significant gotcha, I believe, as the gtk+ version for Ubuntu 16.04 is 3.18

https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/xenial/gtk+3.0

Debian Stretch/MX17 is on gtk 3.22 and the Gnome desktop packages will be using gtk 3.22. Remember, Ubuntu is not Debian.

That's why a full listing of your repos is important.
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Re: Can Gnome Shell work without systemd?

#10 Post by plzd »

dolphin_oracle wrote: Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:31 pm I usually try from the terminal to "apt-get install" whatever depenency is coming up a problem until finally we get to a root problem.
Don't know if this is of any importance??? [in reference to my pic prev posted] I attempted to install in terminal:

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$ sudo apt install libglib2.0-bin 
[sudo] password for : 
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 libglib2.0-bin : Depends: libglib2.0-0 (= 2.50.3-2) but 2.56.1-2~mx17+1 is to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
libglib2.0-bin : Depends: libglib2.0-0 (= 2.50.3-2) but 2.56.1-2~mx17+1 is to be installed
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